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Thomas and others,<br>
<br>
Okay, there's a new beta out 4.25-4.<br>
<br>
You now have a tool "upgrade_zendto_conf" to go with
"upgrade_preferences_php". Hopefully you can guess what it does....<br>
<br>
I've made significant improvements to the New Dropoff form, in line
with Thomas's suggestion below.<br>
I've also swapped the "pick up" and "request drop off" buttons in
line with his suggestion below.<br>
<br>
Please try it out and let me know what you think!<br>
<br>
Other comments and thoughts in-line below:<br>
<br>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 31/03/2017 13:29, TEXIER Thomas
wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hi,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">I’m working as CTO in a
french govt agency with 1500+ users.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">We are seriously
considering using Zendto to support our big files exchanges
requirements.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">If I may, I would
suggest some features that may be interesting to include in
future builds:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph"
style="text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span
style="font-family:Symbol" lang="EN-US"><span
style="mso-list:Ignore">·<span style="font:7.0pt
"Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span lang="EN-US">For
people invited (not logged users) to pick-up or drop-off
files: an option to hide information like IP address
(network information), number of downloads and dates, etc.</span></p>
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I've checked the "showRecipsonPickup" setting. Set this to FALSE and
it should do what you want. I've tested it, looks okay.<br>
I have changed the default value to FALSE as having it TRUE by
default was nuts from a security and privacy perspective.<br>
<br>
<blockquote cite="mid:86f7af30d2e5484a98e0433ea8b0e2ca@anses.fr"
type="cite">
<div class="WordSection1">
<p class="MsoListParagraph"
style="text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1"><span
lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph"
style="text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span
style="font-family:Symbol" lang="EN-US"><span
style="mso-list:Ignore">·<span style="font:7.0pt
"Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span lang="EN-US">For
people invited (not logged users) to drop-off: an option to
disable email notification when logged user pick-up the file</span></p>
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</blockquote>
Why?<br>
<blockquote cite="mid:86f7af30d2e5484a98e0433ea8b0e2ca@anses.fr"
type="cite">
<div class="WordSection1">
<p class="MsoListParagraph"
style="text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1"><span
lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph"
style="text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span
style="font-family:Symbol" lang="EN-US"><span
style="mso-list:Ignore">·<span style="font:7.0pt
"Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span lang="EN-US">When
logged users make a drop-off: an option to NOT include
claimID and passcode in the email (and the link in it) and
let the user give it to people by another way (sms or
anything but not managed by zendto). A reminder of the base
URL of the application to send to people would be nice to.</span></p>
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</blockquote>
You could just untick the "Send email to recipients" box in the "New
Dropoff" form. Then just send them an entirely separate email
explaining how you'll contact them with the details.<br>
Would that do? Or are you looking for a way of automatically sending
them the link to the empty Pickup page?<br>
<br>
<blockquote cite="mid:86f7af30d2e5484a98e0433ea8b0e2ca@anses.fr"
type="cite">
<div class="WordSection1">
<p class="MsoListParagraph"
style="text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1"><span
lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph"
style="text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span
style="font-family:Symbol" lang="EN-US"><span
style="mso-list:Ignore">·<span style="font:7.0pt
"Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span lang="EN-US">When
logged users make a drop-off: an option to deselect by
default the “send email message to recipients” check box.
This would disable the + icon to add email addresses as
well.</span></p>
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</blockquote>
Most people's work-around for this is to send the drop-off just to
themselves. Then they can give the file's actual download link (not
the link to the download page) to people. 1 click and they've got
the file immediately.<br>
<blockquote cite="mid:86f7af30d2e5484a98e0433ea8b0e2ca@anses.fr"
type="cite">
<div class="WordSection1">
<p class="MsoListParagraph"
style="text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1"><span
lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph"
style="text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span
style="font-family:Symbol" lang="EN-US"><span
style="mso-list:Ignore">·<span style="font:7.0pt
"Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span lang="EN-US">When
drop-offs are expired: the ability to display history of
dropboffs, downloads, etc. even if the files itselves are
not available anymore.</span></p>
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There is /var/zendto/zendto.log. Is this not sufficient? I'm always
wary of having database tables that just grow. One of my systems (a
workstation booking system) has been running for nearly 20 years; it
manages it because its tables prune themselves so they cannot just
grow over time.<br>
<blockquote cite="mid:86f7af30d2e5484a98e0433ea8b0e2ca@anses.fr"
type="cite">
<div class="WordSection1">
<p class="MsoListParagraph"
style="text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1"><span
lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph"
style="text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span
style="font-family:Symbol" lang="EN-US"><span
style="mso-list:Ignore">·<span style="font:7.0pt
"Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span lang="EN-US">When
logged users make a drop-off : an option to limit the number
of downloads to X times only. When reached, download is not
possible anymore.</span></p>
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</blockquote>
Bad idea I'm afraid. You can never guarantee a download was actually
successful, despite all your best attempts to do so (and ZendTo
tries quite hard in that area). And wouldn't the value of X have to
vary with the number of recipients? And what happens in the cases
above where the original sender has given the link to an unknown
number of people?<br>
<blockquote cite="mid:86f7af30d2e5484a98e0433ea8b0e2ca@anses.fr"
type="cite">
<div class="WordSection1">
<p class="MsoListParagraph"
style="text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1"><span
lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph"
style="text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span
style="font-family:Symbol" lang="EN-US"><span
style="mso-list:Ignore">·<span style="font:7.0pt
"Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span lang="EN-US">In
the home page for anonymous users: dropoff and pickup
buttons could be swapped.</span></p>
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</blockquote>
Why? Most often external users will only reach the main menu when
they need to dropoff files. If they are picking up, they will have
been sent a download link by ZendTo anyway, so won't start from the
main menu.<br>
<blockquote cite="mid:86f7af30d2e5484a98e0433ea8b0e2ca@anses.fr"
type="cite">
<div class="WordSection1">
<p class="MsoListParagraph"
style="text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1"><span
lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph"
style="text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span
style="font-family:Symbol" lang="EN-US"><span
style="mso-list:Ignore">·<span style="font:7.0pt
"Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span lang="EN-US">In
the logged in user home page: I think you should swap
“pick-up” and “request drop off” buttons because it requires
first to make a request then to pick it up.</span></p>
</div>
</blockquote>
Agreed. Done.<br>
<blockquote cite="mid:86f7af30d2e5484a98e0433ea8b0e2ca@anses.fr"
type="cite">
<div class="WordSection1">
<p class="MsoListParagraph"
style="text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1"><span
lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph"
style="text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span
style="font-family:Symbol" lang="EN-US"><span
style="mso-list:Ignore">·<span style="font:7.0pt
"Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span lang="EN-US">The
first drop-off page where the program asks a request code is
not very easy to handle for loggued in people who wants to
drop off a file. This might be better to put a check box
just before the next button that would show the Request Code
textbox. Or maybe consider a “pure” dropoff diffently than a
“dropoff” after a request to dropoff. That would avoid
confusion to users.</span></p>
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</blockquote>
Agreed. Done.<br>
<blockquote cite="mid:86f7af30d2e5484a98e0433ea8b0e2ca@anses.fr"
type="cite">
<div class="WordSection1">
<p class="MsoListParagraph"
style="text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1"><span
lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph"
style="text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span
style="font-family:Symbol" lang="EN-US"><span
style="mso-list:Ignore">·<span style="font:7.0pt
"Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span lang="EN-US">Multilingual:
possibility to configure default language and others
languages.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph"><span lang="EN-US">On all pages, a
listbox allowing to switch between configured languages with
template support.</span></p>
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</blockquote>
i18n support is on my to-do list. It's a bit lower priority than
Shibboleth / ADFS / SAML single sign-on support.<br>
<blockquote cite="mid:86f7af30d2e5484a98e0433ea8b0e2ca@anses.fr"
type="cite">
<div class="WordSection1">
<p class="MsoListParagraph"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph"><span lang="EN-US">I understand that
may be a lot of work to make all the adjustments.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">I don’t know if you’ll
take this suggestions into account; anyway, thank you for
your time and work on this project; this is a very
interesting and usefull application.</span></p>
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</blockquote>
I would be interested in your (and anyone else's!) thoughts on my
comments and questions above.<br>
<br>
But I've done okay for today. Time for the pub!<br>
<br>
<blockquote cite="mid:86f7af30d2e5484a98e0433ea8b0e2ca@anses.fr"
type="cite">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Keep goin’! </span><span
style="font-family:Wingdings" lang="EN-US">J</span><span
lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">NB : after upgrading our
test instance from 4.20-6 to 4.24-3, it seems the email sent
when dropping-off or requesting to dropoff have a problem:
the email is received by people but it is empty. I rolled
back to 4.20-6 and it works again. I haven’t looked a lot
about that issue and that might be just a problem in our
config files (we used the upgrade_preferences_php utility to
overwrite the previous config and did nothing more than
that).</span></p>
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Email bug is fixed (typo in my code). Check out the "SMTPserver"
setting in preferences.php, set that and it will start sending
pretty HTML emails too!<br>
And you now have an "upgrade_zendto_conf" utility to do the other
half of the job!<br>
<br>
Cheers,<br>
Jules.<br>
<br>
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type="cite">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:FR">Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:FR">-- <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:FR">Thomas
TEXIER<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-fareast-language:FR">Email:
<span style="color:#1F497D"><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:thomas.texier@anses.fr"><span
style="color:blue">thomas.texier@anses.fr</span></a></span><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-fareast-language:FR">Téléphone:
</span><span style="font-size:8.0pt;mso-fareast-language:FR">01
49 77 23 13</span><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-fareast-language:FR"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-fareast-language:FR"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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