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And whenever you run rrdInit.php it totally replaces all the data in
your RRD file if there is still a corresponding Dropoff in the
database. So if you keep Dropoffs for 30 days, every run of
rrdInit.php will replace the data for the last 30 days.<br>
<br>
rrdUpdate.php just draws the graphs. I didn't think of the names of
those scripts, I would have done it a bit differently (like split it
into Init, Update and Graph).<br>
<br>
Jules.<br>
<br>
On 22/09/2011 15:26, Jules wrote:
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Yes, give it a few data points to work on.<br>
<br>
With my own production site, all the stats now match the counts in
the ZendTo database (not looking at the RRD database). So the
graphs say what they should say.<br>
<br>
Jules.<br>
<br>
On 22/09/2011 14:54, ROGERS Richard wrote:
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Hmmm…
initial data population still seems to have an oddity
somewhere – perhaps because I had only one unexpired
dropoff in the database – it still gave all “NaN” in the
RRD. However a manual update with a forged time seemed to
insert a proper data line. I have done a new upload, and
will recreate the database now and then check the
overnight RRD update in the morning.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Thanks
and regards<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Richard<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext"
lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext"
lang="EN-US"> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
href="mailto:zendto-bounces@zend.to">zendto-bounces@zend.to</a>
[<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Jules<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 22 September 2011 14:19<br>
<b>To:</b> ZendTo Users<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [ZendTo] Re: rrd fixes<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Right. Now I've got it to generate
correct data, and correct graphs.<br>
It really does match what the "All Dropoffs" says it
should say.<br>
<br>
So please try the attached versions. You must delete your
zendto.rrd file first. It will re-create all the data, so
you won't lose any old stats. Then run rrdInit.php and
then rrdUpdate.php, then check the graphs on your site.<br>
<br>
Please let me know if you think this works. If it does,
I'll start on a release.<br>
<br>
Thanks for your patience,<br>
Jules.<br>
<br>
On 21/09/2011 09:48, ROGERS Richard wrote: <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I’m
sorry to say I think there are still problems with this.
I don’t think the data is getting into the RRD (which is
why the graphs are flat!). My experience was as follows:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New
;color:#1F497D","serif""># /usr/bin/php
/opt/zendto/sbin/rrdInit.php
/opt/zendto/config/preferences.php</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New
;color:#1F497D","serif"">Initial creation
of RRD file (start date of 2011-09-07)</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New
;color:#1F497D","serif"">16</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New
;color:#1F497D","serif"">/usr/bin/rrdtool
update /var/zendto/rrd/zendto.rrd
1315436400:1:1:2926562.0</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New
;color:#1F497D","serif""> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New
;color:#1F497D","serif"">17</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New
;color:#1F497D","serif"">/usr/bin/rrdtool
update /var/zendto/rrd/zendto.rrd 1316214000:1:1:11.9</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Which
looks OK, although on closer inspection I think the
dates may be suspect. What’s actually shown in the
Outbox is:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Claim
ID Sender
Recipient Size
Created</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">daWQaXD7S2bMGMfK
ROGERS Richard, Staffordshire University
staff (<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:xxxxxx@staffs.ac.uk">xxxxxx@staffs.ac.uk</a>)
RMR <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:richard@xxxxxxxxx.uk"><richard@xxxxxxxxx.uk></a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">
11.9 KB 16 Sep 2011 02:14:53 PM</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">GJYBiNngywQJjXiR
ROGERS Richard, Staffordshire
University staff (<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:xxxxxx@staffs.ac.uk">xxxxxx@staffs.ac.uk</a>)
RMR <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:richard@xxxxxxxxx.uk"><richard@xxxxxxxxx.uk></a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">
2.8 GB 07 Sep 2011 07:42:47 PM</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Now
an rrdtool dump (excerpt) shows:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">
<!-- 2011-08-31 01:00:00 BST / 1314748800 -->
<row><v>NaN</v><v>NaN</v><v>NaN</v><v>NaN</v></row></span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">
<!-- 2011-09-01 01:00:00 BST / 1314835200 -->
<row><v>NaN</v><v>NaN</v><v>NaN</v><v>NaN</v></row></span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">
<!-- 2011-09-02 01:00:00 BST / 1314921600 -->
<row><v>NaN</v><v>NaN</v><v>NaN</v><v>NaN</v></row></span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">
<!-- 2011-09-03 01:00:00 BST / 1315008000 -->
<row><v>NaN</v><v>NaN</v><v>NaN</v><v>NaN</v></row></span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">
<!-- 2011-09-04 01:00:00 BST / 1315094400 -->
<row><v>NaN</v><v>NaN</v><v>NaN</v><v>NaN</v></row></span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">
<!-- 2011-09-05 01:00:00 BST /
1315180800 -->
<row><v>NaN</v><v>NaN</v><v>NaN</v><v>NaN</v></row></span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">
<!-- 2011-09-06 01:00:00 BST / 1315267200 -->
<row><v>NaN</v><v>NaN</v><v>NaN</v><v>NaN</v></row></span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">
<!-- 2011-09-07 01:00:00 BST / 1315353600 -->
<row><v>NaN</v><v>NaN</v><v>NaN</v><v>NaN</v></row></span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">
<!-- 2011-09-08 01:00:00 BST / 1315440000 -->
<row><v>NaN</v><v>NaN</v><v>NaN</v><v>NaN</v></row></span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">
<!-- 2011-09-09 01:00:00 BST / 1315526400 -->
<row><v>NaN</v><v>NaN</v><v>NaN</v><v>NaN</v></row></span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">
<!-- 2011-09-10 01:00:00 BST / 1315612800 -->
<row><v>NaN</v><v>NaN</v><v>NaN</v><v>NaN</v></row></span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">
<!-- 2011-09-11 01:00:00 BST / 1315699200 -->
<row><v>NaN</v><v>NaN</v><v>NaN</v><v>NaN</v></row></span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">
<!-- 2011-09-12 01:00:00 BST / 1315785600 -->
<row><v>NaN</v><v>NaN</v><v>NaN</v><v>NaN</v></row></span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">
<!-- 2011-09-13 01:00:00 BST / 1315872000 -->
<row><v>NaN</v><v>NaN</v><v>NaN</v><v>NaN</v></row></span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">
<!-- 2011-09-14 01:00:00 BST / 1315958400 -->
<row><v>NaN</v><v>NaN</v><v>NaN</v><v>NaN</v></row></span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">
<!-- 2011-09-15 01:00:00 BST / 1316044800
-->
<row><v>NaN</v><v>NaN</v><v>NaN</v><v>NaN</v></row></span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">
<!-- 2011-09-16 01:00:00 BST / 1316131200 -->
<row><v>NaN</v><v>NaN</v><v>NaN</v><v>NaN</v></row></span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">
</database></span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">It
ends after 16/9 (because the last dropoff was on the 16<sup>th</sup>?
– the time stamp on the file is “now” and the time of
last update at the top is
“<lastupdate>1316214000</lastupdate> <!--
2011-09-17 00:00:00 BST -->”)</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Hope
this helps in further diagnosis!</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">ZendTo
4.05 on CentOS VM.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Regards</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Richard</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""
lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""
lang="EN-US"> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:zendto-bounces@zend.to">zendto-bounces@zend.to</a>
[<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:zendto-bounces@zend.to">mailto:zendto-bounces@zend.to</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>--[ UxBoD ]--<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 21 September 2011 08:24<br>
<b>To:</b> ZendTo Users<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [ZendTo] Re: rrd fixes</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier
New ;color:black","serif"">Hmm,
graphs are all empty :(<br>
-- <br>
Thanks, Phil</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"">From:
</span></b><span
style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"">"Jules"
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:Jules@zend.to"><Jules@zend.to></a><br>
<b>To: </b>"ZendTo Users" <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:zendto@zend.to"><zendto@zend.to></a><br>
<b>Sent: </b>Tuesday, 20 September, 2011 9:35:05
PM<br>
<b>Subject: </b>[ZendTo] Re: rrd fixes<br>
<br>
To save you poor busy folks a load of patching, I
might just release a new version of ZendTo
tomorrow. It's the first in a month or so, and it
will iron out these niggles for you.<br>
<br>
There won't be any new preferences.php settings or
database changes, though there are a few *.tpl
template changes. Should be a painless upgrade (he
says, cursing it forever :-)<br>
<br>
Cheers,<br>
Jules.<br>
<br>
On 20/09/2011 21:14, Jules wrote: </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"">I've
found and fixed the problems you've all been
having with rrdInit.php and rrdUpdate.php. <br>
<br>
Attached are new copies of <br>
/opt/zendto/sbin/rrdInit.php <br>
/opt/zendto/sbin/rrdUpdate.php <br>
/opt/zendto/lib/MySQL.php <br>
/opt/zendto/lib/SQLite.php <br>
You will probably need to delete your RRD data
file (/var/zendto/rrd/zendto.rrd by default)
first, and then copy in the 4 files. Then run <br>
/opt/zendto/sbin/rrdInit.php
/opt/zendto/config/preferences.php <br>
/opt/zendto/sbin/rrdUpdate.php
/opt/zendto/config/preferences.php <br>
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The rrdInit script creates the data file if
necessary and updates it with all the latest
stats. <br>
The rrdUpdate script just creates all the graphs.
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Sorry it's taken me so long to work out the
solution to this! <br>
<br>
Jules <br>
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<pre>'It's okay to live without all the answers' - Charlie Eppes, 2011<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>'All programs have a desire to be useful' - Tron, 1982<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>'That is the land of lost content,<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre> I see it shining plain,<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre> The happy highways where I went,<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre> And cannot come again.' - A.E. Houseman<o:p></o:p></pre>
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--
Julian Field MEng CITP CEng
<a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.Zend.To">www.Zend.To</a>
Follow me at twitter.com/JulesFM
PGP footprint: EE81 D763 3DB0 0BFD E1DC 7222 11F6 5947 1415 B654
'It's okay to live without all the answers' - Charlie Eppes, 2011
'All programs have a desire to be useful' - Tron, 1982
'That is the land of lost content,
I see it shining plain,
The happy highways where I went,
And cannot come again.' - A.E. Houseman
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<pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">Jules
--
Julian Field MEng CITP CEng
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.Zend.To">www.Zend.To</a>
Follow me at twitter.com/JulesFM
PGP footprint: EE81 D763 3DB0 0BFD E1DC 7222 11F6 5947 1415 B654
'It's okay to live without all the answers' - Charlie Eppes, 2011
'All programs have a desire to be useful' - Tron, 1982
'That is the land of lost content,
I see it shining plain,
The happy highways where I went,
And cannot come again.' - A.E. Houseman
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