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    But it looks to me like it changed the datestamp on the .rrd file,
    so it definitely did something.<br>
    The size of the file won't change, that's the point of RRD.<br>
    Wait 1 more night to see if it produces anything (RRD often waits 1
    period before showing anything).<br>
    <br>
    Jules.<br>
    <br>
    On 16/09/2011 07:25, <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:patrick.gaikowski@kaufland.com">patrick.gaikowski@kaufland.com</a> wrote:
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cite="mid:OFCA174711.0527CA20-ONC125790D.00232AB6-C125790D.002351B0@de.int.kaufland"
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      <p><font face="sans-serif" size="2">RRD was updated at night, but
          the size is still the same and a made Dropoffs in the
          meantime...</font><br>
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        <font face="sans-serif" size="2">-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 17496
          Sep 16 00:02 zendto.rrd</font><br>
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                <p><font face="sans-serif" size="1">15.09.2011 22:25</font>
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      <font face="serif" size="3">It may well not touch the .rrd file if
        you recently ran it. It knows it's collecting daily stats, so
        will only write to the file if there is new data to calculate.
        But if it is run twice 24 hours apart, I would think it should
        write to the file.<br>
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        It works fine on my installations on RHEL6. RRD is a bit of an
        odd one, as it does various clever tricks so it never expands
        the size of the data file, regardless how much data it has
        collected. See if there's anything in the man page that makes it
        run verbosely.<br>
        <br>
        Jules.<br>
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        On 15/09/2011 20:51, --[ UxBoD ]-- wrote: </font>
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        <font face="Courier" size="2">rrdUpdate only generates new
          images; where as rrdInit updates the RRD. Though it still has
          the same outcome of not updating the RRD due to the error.<br>
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          -- <br>
          Thanks, Phil<br>
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          <font face="sans-serif" size="2">right, still the same...</font><font
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            you see after rrdUpdate the images were updated, but the rrd
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                            [ZendTo] Re: Antwort: Statistics Generation</font></td>
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            Still the same errors and no data updated :(<br>
            <br>
            -- <br>
            Thanks, Phil<br>
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            <font face="Arial" size="3">I can understand rrdInit.php
              whining a bit.<br>
              But if you wait a while (and try it when you have some
              Drop-offs in the store) and then run rrdUpdate.php then it
              should see something.<br>
              <br>
              On 15/09/2011 16:41, --[ UxBoD ]-- wrote: </font>
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                Was just about to report the same :) :(<br>
                -- <br>
                Thanks, Phil<br>
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                <font face="sans-serif" size="2">I have the same problem
                  with CentOS VM.<br>
                  <br>
                  After deletion of all files below </font><font
                  face="sans-serif" size="2"><b>/var/zendto/rrd</b></font><font
                  face="sans-serif" size="2"><br>
                  <br>
                  i got the following error from </font><font
                  face="sans-serif" size="2"><b>rrdInit.php</b></font><font
                  color="#FF0000" face="sans-serif" size="2"><br>
                  <br>
                  [root@filex rrd]# /opt/zendto/sbin/rrdInit.php<br>
                  101<br>
                  /usr/bin/rrdtool update /var/zendto/rrd/zendto.rrd
                  1315864800:1:1:4797.3<br>
                  <br>
                  ERROR: /var/zendto/rrd/zendto.rrd: illegal attempt to
                  update using time 1315864800 when last update time is
                  1315864800 (minimum one second step)<br>
                  99<br>
                  /usr/bin/rrdtool update /var/zendto/rrd/zendto.rrd
                  1315605600:1:1:385467.0<br>
                  <br>
                  ERROR: /var/zendto/rrd/zendto.rrd: illegal attempt to
                  update using time 1315605600 when last update time is
                  1315864800 (minimum one second step)</font><font
                  face="sans-serif" size="2"><b><br>
                    <br>
                    rrdUpdate.php</b></font><font face="sans-serif"
                  size="2"> does not update </font><font
                  face="sans-serif" size="2"><b>zendto.rrd</b></font><font
                  face="Arial" size="3"><br>
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                  height="371" width="589"><font face="Arial" size="3"><br>
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                  Mit freundlichen Gr&uuml;&szlig;en / Best regards<br>
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                  Is there anything special needed to get the statistics
                  generating on the Ubuntu VM?<br>
                  <br>
                  I&#8217;ve been running it for a few days now and the graphs
                  are still empty. Is there a way to force generation or
                  test if it&#8217;s happening?<br>
                  <br>
                  Thanks,<br>
                  Paul</font><font face="Arial" size="3"> </font><font
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'All programs have a desire to be useful' - Tron, 1982
'That is the land of lost content,
 I see it shining plain,
 The happy highways where I went,
 And cannot come again.' - A.E. Houseman
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