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    It may well not touch the .rrd file if you recently ran it. It knows
    it's collecting daily stats, so will only write to the file if there
    is new data to calculate. But if it is run twice 24 hours apart, I
    would think it should write to the file.<br>
    <br>
    It works fine on my installations on RHEL6. RRD is a bit of an odd
    one, as it does various clever tricks so it never expands the size
    of the data file, regardless how much data it has collected. See if
    there's anything in the man page that makes it run verbosely.<br>
    <br>
    Jules.<br>
    <br>
    On 15/09/2011 20:51, --[ UxBoD ]-- wrote:
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      <div style="font-family: Courier New; font-size: 10pt; color:
        #000000">rrdUpdate only generates new images; where as rrdInit
        updates the RRD. Though it still has the same outcome of not
        updating the RRD due to the error.<span><br>
          <br>
          <span name="x"></span>-- <br>
          Thanks, Phil<span name="x"></span><br>
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          <p><font face="sans-serif" size="2">right, still the same...</font><br>
            <br>
            <font face="sans-serif" size="2">you see after rrdUpdate the
              images were updated, but the rrd not</font><br>
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                    <p><font face="sans-serif" size="1">15.09.2011 18:47</font>
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          <font face="Courier" size="2">Still the same errors and no
            data updated :(<br>
            <br>
            -- <br>
            Thanks, Phil<br>
            <br>
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            <font face="Arial" size="3">I can understand rrdInit.php
              whining a bit.<br>
              But if you wait a while (and try it when you have some
              Drop-offs in the store) and then run rrdUpdate.php then it
              should see something.<br>
              <br>
              On 15/09/2011 16:41, --[ UxBoD ]-- wrote: </font>
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              <font face="Arial" size="3"> </font><br>
              <font face="Courier" size="2">Was just about to report the
                same :) :(<br>
                -- <br>
                Thanks, Phil<br>
                <br>
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                <font face="sans-serif" size="2">I have the same problem
                  with CentOS VM.</font><font face="Arial" size="3"><br>
                </font><font face="sans-serif" size="2"><br>
                  After deletion of all files below </font><font
                  face="sans-serif" size="2"><b>/var/zendto/rrd</b></font><font
                  face="Arial" size="3"><br>
                </font><font face="sans-serif" size="2"><br>
                  i got the following error from </font><font
                  face="sans-serif" size="2"><b>rrdInit.php</b></font><font
                  face="Arial" size="3"><br>
                </font><font color="#FF0000" face="sans-serif" size="2"><br>
                  [root@filex rrd]# /opt/zendto/sbin/rrdInit.php<br>
                  101<br>
                  /usr/bin/rrdtool update /var/zendto/rrd/zendto.rrd
                  1315864800:1:1:4797.3</font><font face="Arial"
                  size="3"><br>
                </font><font color="#FF0000" face="sans-serif" size="2"><br>
                  ERROR: /var/zendto/rrd/zendto.rrd: illegal attempt to
                  update using time 1315864800 when last update time is
                  1315864800 (minimum one second step)<br>
                  99<br>
                  /usr/bin/rrdtool update /var/zendto/rrd/zendto.rrd
                  1315605600:1:1:385467.0</font><font face="Arial"
                  size="3"><br>
                </font><font color="#FF0000" face="sans-serif" size="2"><br>
                  ERROR: /var/zendto/rrd/zendto.rrd: illegal attempt to
                  update using time 1315605600 when last update time is
                  1315864800 (minimum one second step)</font><font
                  face="Arial" size="3"><br>
                </font><font face="sans-serif" size="2"><b><br>
                    rrdUpdate.php</b></font><font face="sans-serif"
                  size="2"> does not update </font><font
                  face="sans-serif" size="2"><b>zendto.rrd</b></font><font
                  face="Arial" size="3"><br>
                  <br>
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                  height="371" width="589"><font face="Arial" size="3"><br>
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                  Mit freundlichen Gr&uuml;&szlig;en / Best regards<br>
                  <br>
                  Patrick Gaikowski<br>
                  Tel: +49 7132 94 3568<br>
                  Fax: +49 7132 94 73568<br>
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                            <font face="sans-serif" size="1"><b>Paul
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                              Gesendet von: </font><a
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                            <font face="sans-serif" size="1">15.09.2011
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                                    <font face="sans-serif" size="1">Bitte
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                                    [ZendTo] Statistics Generation</font></td>
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                  Is there anything special needed to get the statistics
                  generating on the Ubuntu VM?</font><font face="Arial"
                  size="3"><br>
                </font><font face="Calibri" size="3"><br>
                  I&#8217;ve been running it for a few days now and the graphs
                  are still empty. Is there a way to force generation or
                  test if it&#8217;s happening?</font><font face="Arial"
                  size="3"><br>
                </font><font face="Calibri" size="3"><br>
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