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/var/zendto/incoming.<br>
This needs to be writable by the web server user, and scannable by
clamd.<br>
<br>
On a RedHat 6 box this should look like this:<br>
<br>
[sysjkf@isol-zendto zendto]$ ls -al /var/zendto<br>
total 2356<br>
drwxrwxr-x. 6 root apache 4096 Feb 24 2011 .<br>
drwxr-xr-x. 24 root root 4096 Feb 24 2011 ..<br>
drwxr-xr-x. 275 apache apache 12288 Sep 5 17:59 dropoffs<br>
drwxr-xr-x. 2 apache apache 4096 Sep 5 17:59 incoming<br>
drwxr-xr-x. 2 apache apache 4096 Jul 20 22:09 rrd<br>
-rw-rw-r--. 1 apache apache 2361233 Sep 5 21:16 zendto.log<br>
<br>
On a Ubuntu box or a CentOS box the user and group of the files will
be different, may be "www-data" or "httpd" instead of "apache". But
the permissions should look like the above.<br>
<br>
Jules.<br>
<br>
On 05/09/2011 16:19, Chris Barber wrote:
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Thanks. I am
still not able to upload files larger than 2 GB however. The
error message has changed to:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New
Roman","serif";color:windowtext">Upload
Error<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New
Roman","serif";color:windowtext">There
was an error while uploading 'filename.iso'. The
server's temporary folder is misconfigured.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">What temp
folder is this referring to?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext">
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:zendto-bounces@zend.to">zendto-bounces@zend.to</a> [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:zendto-bounces@zend.to">mailto:zendto-bounces@zend.to</a>] <b>On
Behalf Of </b>Jules<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, September 05, 2011 4:13 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> ZendTo Users<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [ZendTo] Re: Large uploads not working
on 64-bit Centos VM<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Copy in that module file, make sure it has
exactly the same ownership and permissions as the version that
was there before (I would save your old one just in case), and
then<br>
service httpd restart<br>
and you should be up and running.<br>
<br>
Cheers!<br>
Jules.<br>
<br>
P.S. Donations for quick responses are always welcome! :-)<br>
<br>
On 05/09/2011 02:56, Chris Barber wrote: <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Jules,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Wow thank you
for the quick work! </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Not to sound
too noobish, but do I just need to copy in this module file?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Thanks,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Chris</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext">
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:zendto-bounces@zend.to">zendto-bounces@zend.to</a>
[<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:zendto-bounces@zend.to">mailto:zendto-bounces@zend.to</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Jules<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, September 04, 2011 4:59 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> ZendTo Users<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [ZendTo] Re: Large uploads not working
on 64-bit Centos VM</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Check the News on the zend.to home page, as
I have posted a link to a replacement<br>
/usr/lib64/httpd/modules/libphp5.so<br>
file there.<br>
<br>
Alternatively, I have posted a rebuild of the whole CentOS-x64
build of ZendTo on the downloads page as well.<br>
<br>
I hope that solves your problem for you. :-)<br>
<br>
Cheers,<br>
Jules.<br>
<br>
Time for bed.<br>
<br>
On 04/09/2011 15:56, Chris Barber wrote: <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">I’m not able to
follow the instructions on zend.to/phpfix.php</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">I get errors
about every other command. Some I am able to work around (I
think) and others I can’t figure out. For now I’ll just wait
I guess cause I don’t have time to spend 5 hours on this.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">If anyone else
can try this, please do and report back.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Thanks,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Chris</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in">
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext">On
Behalf Of </span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext">Chris
Barber<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, September 04, 2011 10:42 AM<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Jules,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">The following
link from <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://zend.to/phpfix.php"><span
style="color:#1F497D;text-decoration:none">http://zend.to/phpfix.php</span></a>
is broken. I did a Google search but I’m finding a few items
that look similar. Can you provide and correct link?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://mirror.rackspace.com/ius/stable/Redhat/5.5/SRPMS/"><span
style="color:#1F497D;text-decoration:none">http://mirror.rackspace.com/ius/stable/Redhat/5.5/SRPMS/</span></a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Thanks,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Chris</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
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1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in">
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext">On
Behalf Of </span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext">Jules<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, September 04, 2011 5:45 AM</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">I've found the solution to this one. In the
most recent PHP revision, they tweaked the layout of the code
which caused the patching commands on <a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://zend.to/phpfix.php">http://zend.to/phpfix.php</a>
to break, so it left an int behind that it should have turned
into a long.<br>
<br>
If you're running your own server (and haven't just taken my
VM distribution) then you need to rebuild the libphp5.so
binary according to the instructions on zend.to/phpfix.php
which I fixed some time ago when I first discovered the
problem.<br>
<br>
If my VM distribution is also wrong, I will get that rebuilt
as soon as I can. Otherwise you can just follow the
instructions on <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://zend.to/phpfix.php">http://zend.to/phpfix.php</a>
yourself to rebuild the binary.<br>
<br>
Note if you are running RedHat 6 or CentOS 6, you will need to
follow the link on that page to the RedHat 6 version of the
instructions. Unfortunately these are rather more long-winded
due to RedHat failing to ship a load of the libraries that are
required to rebuild their own binaries :-(<br>
<br>
Can you confirm the problem *does* exist on my own VM
distribution for CentOS 5?<br>
<br>
Jules.<br>
<br>
On 02/09/2011 15:52, Chris Barber wrote: <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Okay well I am
still also NOT able to upload any files larger than 2 GB, no
matter what browser I try. IE9 64 bit, nope. Chrome, nope.
Firefox, nope. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">I checked my
PHP parameters and they also look fine as you indicated
below. I’m out of ideas at the moment….</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">My setup is
using the 64 bit CentOS prebuilt VM. Running in ESXi 4.x.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Jules?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">-Chris</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in">
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:zendto-bounces@zend.to">zendto-bounces@zend.to</a>
[<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:zendto-bounces@zend.to">mailto:zendto-bounces@zend.to</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Chris Barber<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, September 02, 2011 10:36 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> ZendTo Users<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [ZendTo] Re: Large uploads not working
on 64-bit Centos VM</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">Hey Richard</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">I’m going to test this
on my CentOS 4.05 ZendTo install and let you know if it
works. Make sure you give IE9 64bit edition a try too. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">Will report back soon.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">-Chris</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:zendto-bounces@zend.to">zendto-bounces@zend.to</a>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>ROGERS Richard<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, September 02, 2011 6:44 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> '<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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<b>Subject:</b> [ZendTo] Large uploads not working on
64-bit Centos VM</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">Hi –</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">I’m coming back to my
upload problems with large (>2GB) files, having updated
to 4.03 on my 64 bit CentOS virtual machine (downloaded from
zend.to, so should have all the right underpinnings).</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">Unfortunately this issue
hasn’t gone away with the upgrade (there’s always hope </span><span
style="font-family:Wingdings" lang="EN-GB">J</span><span
lang="EN-GB">). Here is a bit more info…</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">Uploading via Chrome on
Win7/64 bit, the upload appears to complete, but at the end
the following error is displayed:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><img id="Picture_x0020_1"
src="cid:part1.07000104.03040301@Zend.To" alt="Description:
cid:part1.03020404.00050502@Zend.To" border="0" height="305"
width="593"><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">A couple of things to
note:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph"
style="text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span
style="mso-list:Ignore">1.<span style="font:7.0pt
"Times New Roman""> </span></span><!--[endif]--><span
lang="EN-GB">The size does not exceed the limits imposed –
I’ve set an upload limit in the configuration of around 8GB
– when the upload starts Chrome displays
“2242.39MB/8864.37MB”</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph"
style="text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span
style="mso-list:Ignore">2.<span style="font:7.0pt
"Times New Roman""> </span></span><!--[endif]--><span
lang="EN-GB">A simple PHP script reports its internal limits
as follows:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph"><span lang="EN-GB">php_int_max
9223372036854775807<br>
php_int_size 8</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph"><span lang="EN-GB">…so that looks
like a “proper” 64 bit PHP!</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph"
style="text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span
style="mso-list:Ignore">3.<span style="font:7.0pt
"Times New Roman""> </span></span><!--[endif]--><span
lang="EN-GB">Note the “From” above – it seems to have
“forgotten” who I am – could this be linked? (or is it just
not bothering after some other failure – possibly so as it
sill displays “you are currently logged in as <i>ROGERS
Richard</i>” at the bottom of the screen). It correctly
displayed my details (from AD login) in the earlier screens.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">Relevant configuration
files are attached.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">Any suggestions as to
what the problem may be, or how to go about tracking it
down, are welcome!</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">Thanks and regards</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">Richard</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;color:gray;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB"
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