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    Try Safari or Firefox from 64-bit Windows 7. One of them might
    behave properly. I haven't tried Firefox from a 64-bit Linux setup.<br>
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    On 17/04/2011 18:29, <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:patrick.gaikowski@kaufland.com">patrick.gaikowski@kaufland.com</a> wrote:
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      <p>Hi Jules,<br>
        <br>
        i tested it from WinXP 32Bit and Ubuntu 64Bit.<br>
        <br>
        Patrick<br>
        <br>
        <br>
        <br>
        <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.kaufland.de">http://www.kaufland.de</a>
        <br>
        <br>
        Kaufland Informationssysteme GmbH &amp; Co. KG<br>
        Postfach 12 53 - 74149 Neckarsulm<br>
        Kommanditgesellschaft<br>
        Sitz: Neckarsulm<br>
        Registergericht: Amtsgericht Stuttgart HRA 104163<br>
        <br>
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                <b><font size="2">Jules <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:Jules@zend.to">&lt;Jules@zend.to&gt;</a></font></b><font
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                <font size="2">Gesendet von: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:zendto-bounces@zend.to">zendto-bounces@zend.to</a></font>
                <p><font size="2">17.04.2011 12:09</font>
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                            antworten an<br>
                            ZendTo Users <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:zendto@zend.to">&lt;zendto@zend.to&gt;</a></font></td>
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                      <font size="2">ZendTo Users <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:zendto@zend.to">&lt;zendto@zend.to&gt;</a></font></td>
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                      <font size="2">[ZendTo] Re: Antwort: Re: {SPAM?}
                        Upload &gt; 2GB :..</font></td>
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      <font size="4">Did you do it from a Mac or a PC? From a Mac with
        Safari I can get many more than 2GB.<br>
        It's browser problems that cause this, as it does work from a
        Mac running Safari.<br>
        <br>
        Jules.<br>
        <br>
        On 17/04/2011 10:23, </font><a moz-do-not-send="true"
        href="mailto:patrick.gaikowski@kaufland.com"><u><font
            color="#0000ff" size="4">patrick.gaikowski@kaufland.com</font></u></a><font
        size="4"> wrote: </font>
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          <font size="4">Hi,<br>
            <br>
            as i wrote i did tests with 64Bit RHEL 5.x and fixed PHP as
            documented. I set the limit in preferences.php to 8GB. I
            doesn' matter which browser i take! The limit is 2GB...<br>
            <br>
            I tried Firefox 3.x 32Bit, Firefox 4.x 32Bit., Firefox 4.x
            64Bit...<br>
            <br>
            I tried also the preconfigured VM (CentOS 64-Bit) from
            Zend.to and had the same issue.<br>
            <br>
            Mit freundlichen Gr&uuml;&szlig;en / Best regards<br>
            <br>
            Patrick Gaikowski<br>
            Tel: +49 7132 94 3568<br>
            Fax: +49 7132 94 73568<br>
            E-Mail: </font><a moz-do-not-send="true"
            href="mailto:patrick.gaikowski@kaufland.com"><u><font
                color="#0000ff" size="4">patrick.gaikowski@kaufland.com</font></u></a><font
            size="4"><br>
            KI 967800 IT International / Infrastruktur<br>
            Office:<br>
            Lindichstrasse 11<br>
            D-74189 Weinsberg<br>
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            href="http://www.kaufland.de/"><u><font color="#0000ff"
                size="4">http://www.kaufland.de</font></u></a><font
            size="4"> <br>
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            Kaufland Informationssysteme GmbH &amp; Co. KG<br>
            Postfach 12 53 - 74149 Neckarsulm<br>
            Kommanditgesellschaft<br>
            Sitz: Neckarsulm<br>
            Registergericht: Amtsgericht Stuttgart HRA 104163<br>
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                size="4">Jules </font><a moz-do-not-send="true"
                href="mailto:Jules@zend.to"><u><font color="#0000ff"
                    size="4">&lt;Jules@zend.to&gt;</font></u></a><font
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                      <b>Jules </b><a moz-do-not-send="true"
                        href="mailto:Jules@zend.to"><b><u><font
                              color="#0000ff">&lt;Jules@zend.to&gt;</font></u></b></a>
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                      Gesendet von: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                        href="mailto:zendto-bounces@zend.to"><u><font
                            color="#0000ff">zendto-bounces@zend.to</font></u></a><font
                        size="4"> </font>
                      <p>16.04.2011 23:40<font size="4"> </font></p>
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                          antworten an<br>
                          ZendTo Users <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                            href="mailto:zendto@zend.to"><u><font
                                color="#0000ff">&lt;zendto@zend.to&gt;</font></u></a></td>
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                          ZendTo Users <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                            href="mailto:zendto@zend.to"><u><font
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          <font size="5"><br>
            Certainly IE cannot cope with uploads bigger than 2GB.<br>
            And you also need a patched PHP (see the web site for how to
            do this) to support uploads bigger than 2GB.<br>
            <br>
            On my Mac with Safari, I can do uploads far in excess of 2GB
            with no problems at all.<br>
            <br>
            Once you've got a patched PHP library, it's all down to the
            browser, and most Windows ones are screwed. Even a
            supposedly 64-bit IE9 on Windows 2008R2 64-bit can still not
            do uploads bigger than 2GB (which is the 31-bit limit, so
            they are still using 32-bit signed integers to hold the
            upload size. :-(<br>
            <br>
            And don't forget to set the max upload file limits in
            preferences.php and php.ini as well of course.<br>
            <br>
            On 16/04/2011 20:04, Duncan, Brian M. wrote: </font>
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                  <font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="4">Patrick I
                    have not checked lately to see if the status changed
                    on this yet, last I knew 2 gig was the limit.</font><font
                    size="4"><br>
                  </font><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="4"><br>
                    Here was an email I sent back in Feb to the list
                    related to this issue, not sure if it is still the
                    same.</font><font size="4"><br>
                  </font><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="4"><br>
                    Check your PHP error log there might be something in
                    there on your 4 gig uploads.</font><font size="4"><br>
                  </font><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="4"><br>
                    I would also like to have 4 gig working, and if it
                    is just something with APC maybe that will be fixed
                    in the future.. but for now we just told users 2 gig
                    is the max per drop-off.</font><font size="4"><br>
                    <br>
                  </font>
                  <hr align="left" size="2" width="100%"><b><font
                      face="Tahoma" size="4">From:</font></b><font
                    face="Tahoma" size="4"> </font><a
                    moz-do-not-send="true"
                    href="mailto:zendto-bounces@zend.to"><u><font
                        color="#0000ff" face="Tahoma" size="4">zendto-bounces@zend.to</font></u></a><font
                    face="Tahoma" size="4"> [</font><a
                    moz-do-not-send="true"
                    href="mailto:zendto-bounces@zend.to"><u><font
                        color="#0000ff" face="Tahoma" size="4">mailto:zendto-bounces@zend.to</font></u></a><font
                    face="Tahoma" size="4">] </font><b><font
                      face="Tahoma" size="4">On Behalf Of </font></b><font
                    face="Tahoma" size="4">Duncan, Brian M.</font><b><font
                      face="Tahoma" size="4"><br>
                      Sent:</font></b><font face="Tahoma" size="4">
                    Wednesday, February 23, 2011 1:45 PM</font><b><font
                      face="Tahoma" size="4"><br>
                      To:</font></b><font face="Tahoma" size="4"> ZendTo
                    Users</font><b><font face="Tahoma" size="4"><br>
                      Subject:</font></b><font face="Tahoma" size="4">
                    {Disarmed} [ZendTo] {Disarmed} RE: {Disarmed}
                    {Disarmed} Re: {Disarmed}{Disarmed} RE: {Disarmed}
                    {Disarmed} Re: {Disarmed} RE: Re:{Disarmed} RE:
                    Re:ZendTo 3.70 released</font><font size="4"><br>
                  </font><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="4"><br>
                    I figured it out.</font><font size="4"><br>
                  </font><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="4"><br>
                    It is that post_max_size 50000M does not seem to
                    work and it must be defaulting to some value that
                    equals 889192448 bytes when you have it set to
                    50000M.</font><font size="4"><br>
                  </font><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="4"><br>
                    When I set it to 1000M I was able to upload my 950
                    meg file and it completed and the progress bar
                    worked. This is against my PRODUCTION zendto server
                    that is 64bit Centos.</font><font size="4"><br>
                  </font><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="4"><br>
                    I then tried setting it to 3000M and it caused other
                    issues with Zendto. (I could not log in
                    successfully)</font><font size="4"><br>
                  </font><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="4"><br>
                    This was the error log when it was set to 3000M:</font><font
                    size="4"><br>
                  </font><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="4"><br>
                    PHP Warning: Unknown: POST Content-Length of 43
                    bytes exceeds the limit of -1149239296 bytes in
                    Unknown on line 0, referer: </font><a
                    moz-do-not-send="true"
                    href="http://10.9.3.5/?action=login"><b><u><font
                          color="#ff0000" face="Arial" size="4">MailScanner
                          has detected a possible fraud attempt from
                          "10.9.3.5" claiming to be</font></u></b><u><font
                        color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="4">
                        http://10.9.3.5/?action=login</font></u></a><font
                    color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="4"><br>
                    Some kind of PHP bug?</font><font size="4"><br>
                  </font><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="4"><br>
                    I finally settled on 2000M, anything higher then
                    post_max_size = 2000M would cause the login issue.
                    Setting at 50000M must make it default to the
                    889192448 value.</font><font size="4"><br>
                  </font><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="4"><br>
                    I verified this on my production server and on your
                    current CentOS VMWARE image.</font><font size="4"><br>
                  </font><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="4"><br>
                    This sounds to me that there is a hard limit at this
                    point with Zendto's ability to receive files larger
                    then 2 gigs that might not be able to be worked
                    around.</font><font size="4"><br>
                  </font><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="4"><br>
                    If someone has any idea how to work around this
                    please let me know. </font><font size="4"><br>
                  </font><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="4"><br>
                    Now the progress bar works for drop-off's up to 2
                    gig in size.</font><font size="4"><br>
                  </font><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="4"><br>
                    Here is the 950 meg drop-off that never worked
                    before:</font><font size="4"><br>
                  </font>
                  <p><font size="4">BRIAN M. DUNCAN<br>
                      Data Security Administrator<br>
                      Katten Muchin Rosenman LLP<br>
                      525 W. Monroe Street / Chicago, IL 60661-3693<br>
                      p / (312) 577-8045 f / (312) 577-4490</font><u><font
                        color="#0000ff" size="4"><br>
                      </font></u><a moz-do-not-send="true"
                      href="mailto:brian.duncan@kattenlaw.com"><u><font
                          color="#0000ff" size="4">brian.duncan@kattenlaw.com</font></u></a><font
                      size="4"> / </font><a moz-do-not-send="true"
                      href="http://www.kattenlaw.com/"><u><font
                          color="#0000ff" size="4">www.kattenlaw.com</font></u></a>
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                      face="Tahoma" size="4">From:</font></b><font
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                    [ZendTo] {SPAM?} Upload &gt; 2GB :..</font>
                  <p><font size="5">any news? is it possible to make an
                      upload with more than 2gb?<br>
                      <br>
                      Hello,<br>
                      <br>
                      i tried to Upload a 3GB-File (Firefox 3.x and
                      Firefox 4) and the progresspage is still showing
                      100% and nothing happened.<br>
                      <br>
                      I tested it with the 64Bit-VM CentOS and also with
                      a 64-Bit RHEL5 (php compiled like shown in
                      documentation).<br>
                      <br>
                      In our 64-Bit RHEL5 i got the following error:<br>
                      <br>
                      [Mon Apr 11 14:49:50 2011] [error] [client
                      x.x.x.x] Invalid Content-Length, referer: </font><a
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                      [Mon Apr 11 16:42:43 2011] [error] [client
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                      Mit freundlichen Gr&uuml;&szlig;en / Best regards<br>
                      <br>
                      Patrick Gaikowski<br>
                      Tel: +49 7132 94 3568<br>
                      Fax: +49 7132 94 73568<br>
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                      Postfach 12 53 - 74149 Neckarsulm<br>
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