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<span style="white-space: pre;">889192448 in base 10 = 35000000 in
base 16.<br>
So 889192448 = 848 MBytes.<br>
So there is a hard limit set in your PHP somewhere.<br>
Can you hunt through all the php.ini files looking for likely
settings?<br>
</span><br>
On 23/02/2011 17:16, Duncan, Brian M. wrote:<br>
<span style="white-space: pre;">> The VM I am currently
troubleshooting is based on your CentOS VM that<br>
> is up on the zendto site.<br>
> <br>
> I looked and the PHP.INI did not contain the
apc.max_file_size = 50G,<br>
> so I added it.<br>
> <br>
> I restarted Apache and right when you click drop off files on
a 950<br>
> meg file I get in the error log:<br>
> <br>
> [Wed Feb 23 11:12:23 2011] [error] [client 10.9.3.4] PHP
Warning:<br>
> POST Content-Length of 973173368 bytes exceeds the limit of
889192448<br>
> bytes in Unknown on line 0, referer: *MailScanner has
detected a<br>
> possible fraud attempt from "10.9.3.5" claiming to be*<br>
> <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://10.9.3.5/verify.php"><font color="red"><b>MailScanner has detected a possible fraud attempt from "10.9.3.5" claiming to be</b></font> http://10.9.3.5/verify.php</a> <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="http://10.9.3.5/verify.php"><font color="red"><b>MailScanner has detected a possible fraud attempt from "10.9.3.5" claiming to be</b></font> <font color="red"><b>MailScanner has detected a possible fraud attempt from "10.9.3.5" claiming to be</b></font> <http://10.9.3.5/verify.php></a>
BTW,<br>
> <br>
> This is my apc.ini in /etc/php.d (untouched from how it was
in the VM<br>
> I downloaded)<br>
> <br>
> apc.enabled=1 apc.shm_segments=1 apc.optimization=0
apc.shm_size=32M <br>
> apc.ttl=7200 apc.user_ttl=7200 apc.num_files_hint=1024 <br>
> apc.mmap_file_mask=/tmp/apc.XXXXXX apc.enable_cli=1 <br>
> apc.cache_by_default=1 apc.rfc1867=on apc.max_file_size=50G<br>
> <br>
> BRIAN M. DUNCAN Data Security Administrator Katten Muchin
Rosenman<br>
> LLP 525 W. Monroe Street / Chicago, IL 60661-3693 p / (312)
577-8045<br>
> f / (312) 577-4490 <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:brian.duncan@kattenlaw.com">brian.duncan@kattenlaw.com</a> /
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.kattenlaw.com">www.kattenlaw.com</a><br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> ------------------------- *From:* <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:zendto-bounces@zend.to">zendto-bounces@zend.to</a><br>
> [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:zendto-bounces@zend.to">mailto:zendto-bounces@zend.to</a>] *On Behalf Of *Jules *Sent:*<br>
> Wednesday, February 23, 2011 11:07 AM *To:* ZendTo Users
*Subject:*<br>
> [ZendTo] Re: {Disarmed} RE: Re: ZendTo 3.70 released<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> On 23/02/2011 16:57, Duncan, Brian M. wrote:<br>
>> <br>
>> I can't believe I missed this till now after days of
messing with<br>
>> this :)<br>
>> <br>
>> This is the error in the errlog when uploads fail:<br>
>> <br>
>> [Wed Feb 23 10:47:02 2011] [error] [client 10.9.3.4] PHP
Warning:<br>
>> POST Content-Length of 973173384 bytes exceeds the limit
of<br>
>> 889192448 bytes in Unknown on line 0, referer:
*MailScanner has<br>
>> detected a possible fraud attempt from "10.9.3.5"
claiming to be*<br>
>> <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://10.9.3.5/verify.php"><font color="red"><b>MailScanner has detected a possible fraud attempt from "10.9.3.5" claiming to be</b></font> http://10.9.3.5/verify.php</a>
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="http://10.9.3.5/verify.php"><font color="red"><b>MailScanner has detected a possible fraud attempt from "10.9.3.5" claiming to be</b></font> <font color="red"><b>MailScanner has detected a possible fraud attempt from "10.9.3.5" claiming to be</b></font> <http://10.9.3.5/verify.php></a> Can you<br>
>> tell me how we work around this?<br>
> It's a limit in your /etc/php.ini or
/etc/php5/apache2/php.ini <br>
> upload_max_filesize =<br>
> <br>
>> <br>
>> I am wondering if fixing that will also allow the status
bar to<br>
>> work with large uploads.<br>
> I'll be interested to hear.<br>
>> <br>
>> Thanks<br>
>> <br>
>> Brian<br>
>> <br>
>> <br>
>> BRIAN M. DUNCAN Data Security Administrator Katten Muchin
Rosenman<br>
>> LLP 525 W. Monroe Street / Chicago, IL 60661-3693 p /
(312)<br>
>> 577-8045 f / (312) 577-4490 <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:brian.duncan@kattenlaw.com">brian.duncan@kattenlaw.com</a> /<br>
>> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.kattenlaw.com">www.kattenlaw.com</a><br>
>> <br>
>> <br>
>> <br>
>> <br>
>> ------------------------- *From:* <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:zendto-bounces@zend.to">zendto-bounces@zend.to</a><br>
>> [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:zendto-bounces@zend.to">mailto:zendto-bounces@zend.to</a>] *On Behalf Of *Duncan,
Brian M. <br>
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 23, 2011 10:43 AM *To:*
ZendTo Users <br>
>> *Subject:* [ZendTo] Re: ZendTo 3.70 released<br>
>> <br>
>> This still happens without using the progress bar though.
(That<br>
>> uploads greater then 850 megabytes zendto does not
accept) Happens<br>
>> in your CentOS and Ubuntu builds of 3.70 and 3.65 I have
now<br>
>> verified it happens in.<br>
>> <br>
>> Does that still mean it is due to the APC module?<br>
>> <br>
>> I need to try to figure some work around.<br>
>> <br>
>> I don't need the progress bar, but I need uploads to work
up to 2<br>
>> gig.<br>
>> <br>
>> Thanks<br>
>> <br>
>> Brian<br>
>> <br>
>> <br>
>> <br>
>> BRIAN M. DUNCAN Data Security Administrator Katten Muchin
Rosenman<br>
>> LLP 525 W. Monroe Street / Chicago, IL 60661-3693 p /
(312)<br>
>> 577-8045 f / (312) 577-4490 <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:brian.duncan@kattenlaw.com">brian.duncan@kattenlaw.com</a> /<br>
>> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.kattenlaw.com">www.kattenlaw.com</a><br>
>> <br>
>> <br>
>> <br>
>> <br>
>> ------------------------- *From:* <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:zendto-bounces@zend.to">zendto-bounces@zend.to</a><br>
>> [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:zendto-bounces@zend.to">mailto:zendto-bounces@zend.to</a>] *On Behalf Of *Jules
*Sent:*<br>
>> Wednesday, February 23, 2011 10:35 AM *To:* ZendTo Users
*Subject:*<br>
>> [ZendTo] Re: ZendTo 3.70 released<br>
>> <br>
>> It sits at 100 if it never gets any size information from
the APC<br>
>> module at all. So yes, if it sits at 100 it will probably
fail as<br>
>> the APC module has got screwed up. Not a whole lot I can
do about<br>
>> that really, sorry. If you have any suggestions though,
I'm all<br>
>> ears! :-)<br>
>> <br>
>> Jules.<br>
>> <br>
>> On 23/02/2011 15:16, Duncan, Brian M. wrote:<br>
>>> I decided to see if your Ubuntu build has the same
issues.<br>
>>> <br>
>>> It does have the same issues.<br>
>>> <br>
>>> I downloaded<br>
>>> <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.zend.to/files/ZendTo-Ubuntu-x86-3.70-2.zip">http://www.zend.to/files/ZendTo-Ubuntu-x86-3.70-2.zip</a>
and set it<br>
>>> up with bare minimum to test a large upload.<br>
>>> <br>
>>> 980 meg upload had the same issues, no status bar
updates and the<br>
>>> upload failes to be accepted by zendto.<br>
>>> <br>
>>> 850 meg uploads and below in size work fine and the
drop-off is<br>
>>> accepted and you get the dropoff summary.<br>
>>> <br>
>>> Jules I don't know what is going on here but the
progress bar<br>
>>> helps determine if zendto is not going to accept the
upload. I<br>
>>> have found it to be consistent that if the progress
bar displays<br>
>>> 100 the entire upload when the upload finishes then
zendto will<br>
>>> not display the dropoff summary.<br>
>>> <br>
>>> Is there anything else specifically that I can do to
help narrow<br>
>>> down what is causing this? I was going to try next
downloading<br>
>>> the 3.65-1 VM which still has the older PHP in it if
I recall<br>
>>> correctly and verify that.<br>
>>> <br>
>>> Thanks,<br>
>>> <br>
>>> Brian<br>
>>> <br>
>>> <br>
>>> <br>
>>> BRIAN M. DUNCAN Data Security Administrator Katten
Muchin<br>
>>> Rosenman LLP 525 W. Monroe Street / Chicago, IL
60661-3693 p /<br>
>>> (312) 577-8045 f / (312) 577-4490
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:brian.duncan@kattenlaw.com">brian.duncan@kattenlaw.com</a> /<br>
>>> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.kattenlaw.com">www.kattenlaw.com</a><br>
>>> <br>
>>> <br>
>>> <br>
>>> <br>
>>> ------------------------- *From:*
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:zendto-bounces@zend.to">zendto-bounces@zend.to</a><br>
>>> [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:zendto-bounces@zend.to">mailto:zendto-bounces@zend.to</a>] *On Behalf Of
*Duncan, Brian M. <br>
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 22, 2011 12:40 PM *To:*
ZendTo Users <br>
>>> *Subject:* [ZendTo] Re: ZendTo 3.70 released<br>
>>> <br>
>>> OK I had some time to download the CentOS VM 3.70-2
image.<br>
>>> <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.zend.to/files/ZendTo-CentOS-x86-3.70-2.zip">http://www.zend.to/files/ZendTo-CentOS-x86-3.70-2.zip</a><br>
>>> <br>
>>> I just did minimum configuration after setting it up
in VMware<br>
>>> workstation so I could access it locally through a
web browser to<br>
>>> drop off a large file. (980 meg file again)<br>
>>> <br>
>>> I installed iptraf on the VM and during the upload it
averaged<br>
>>> around 3700 Kilobytes per second transferring to the
Zendto VM.<br>
>>> (Around 6 minutes on the upload)<br>
>>> <br>
>>> It still failed to display the drop-off summary. It
resets back<br>
>>> to the adding the recipient #1 and the file you want
to drop off.<br>
>>> Progress bar was stuck at 100 the whole time, I know
you know of<br>
>>> the progress bar bug, just listing because it is
staying constant<br>
>>> at least for me.<br>
>>> <br>
>>> So it would seem with at least the CentOS
distribution (I have<br>
>>> never tried Ubuntu) that at somewhere around 850 megs
uploads do<br>
>>> not finish successfully. (Not progress bar on or off
dependent<br>
>>> either)<br>
>>> <br>
>>> I have not tried Ubuntu since we have to use Red Hat
based<br>
>>> distributions. So if the issue is related to PHP and
CentOS I am<br>
>>> unable to rule that out at this point.<br>
>>> <br>
>>> Thanks<br>
>>> <br>
>>> Brian<br>
>>> <br>
>>> <br>
>>> <br>
>>> BRIAN M. DUNCAN Data Security Administrator Katten
Muchin<br>
>>> Rosenman LLP 525 W. Monroe Street / Chicago, IL
60661-3693 p /<br>
>>> (312) 577-8045 f / (312) 577-4490
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:brian.duncan@kattenlaw.com">brian.duncan@kattenlaw.com</a> /<br>
>>> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.kattenlaw.com">www.kattenlaw.com</a><br>
>>> <br>
>>> <br>
>>> <br>
>>> <br>
>>> ------------------------- *From:*
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:zendto-bounces@zend.to">zendto-bounces@zend.to</a><br>
>>> [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:zendto-bounces@zend.to">mailto:zendto-bounces@zend.to</a>] *On Behalf Of *Jules
*Sent:*<br>
>>> Tuesday, February 22, 2011 8:59 AM *To:* ZendTo Users
*Subject:*<br>
>>> [ZendTo] Re: ZendTo 3.70 released<br>
>>> <br>
>>> <br>
>>> <br>
>>> On 22/02/2011 14:43, Duncan, Brian M. wrote:<br>
>>>> Well I took a chance and renamed my zendto (3.7x)
directory and<br>
>>>> put back in place 3.62 and still found that the
980 meg upload<br>
>>>> still does not work.<br>
>>> Good. From my point of view, anyway, as it means I
haven't broken<br>
>>> anything that wasn't already broken.<br>
>>>> <br>
>>>> So I moved back to the 3.7x.<br>
>>>> <br>
>>>> Any idea where I can start to troubleshoot why
uploads that<br>
>>>> large do not finish with Zendto?<br>
>>> Try different browsers, try a different build of PHP
5.2 (if<br>
>>> you're on CentOS, there is more than one) and make
sure you have<br>
>>> rebuilt the libphp5.so file correctly, and that it
matches the<br>
>>> version of all the other php5 packages you have
installed.<br>
>>>> <br>
>>>> I was going to try and download a current VMWARE
image today<br>
>>>> and set that up locally on VMware workstation and
verify that<br>
>>>> but I do not know if I will have enough time.<br>
>>> Make sure you follow my instructions on the website
and in the<br>
>>> README that is in the zip file you will download.<br>
>>> <br>
>>> Jules.<br>
>>>> <br>
>>>> <br>
>>>> BRIAN M. DUNCAN Data Security Administrator
Katten Muchin<br>
>>>> Rosenman LLP 525 W. Monroe Street / Chicago, IL
60661-3693 p /<br>
>>>> (312) 577-8045 f / (312) 577-4490
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:brian.duncan@kattenlaw.com">brian.duncan@kattenlaw.com</a> /<br>
>>>> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.kattenlaw.com">www.kattenlaw.com</a><br>
>>>> <br>
>>>> <br>
>>>> <br>
>>>> <br>
>>>> ------------------------- *From:*
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:zendto-bounces@zend.to">zendto-bounces@zend.to</a><br>
>>>> [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:zendto-bounces@zend.to">mailto:zendto-bounces@zend.to</a>] *On Behalf Of
*Duncan, Brian<br>
>>>> M. *Sent:* Tuesday, February 22, 2011 8:21 AM
*To:* ZendTo<br>
>>>> Users *Subject:* [ZendTo] Re: ZendTo 3.70
released<br>
>>>> <br>
>>>> Thanks Jules,<br>
>>>> <br>
>>>> After putting in place the new_dropoff.tpl from
the new version<br>
>>>> I now have the animated gif working and uploading
is back to<br>
>>>> working.<br>
>>>> <br>
>>>> Problem is that it still does not accept an
upload that is 980<br>
>>>> megabytes. When it finishes sending it it just
resets the<br>
>>>> dropoff page to ask for the recipient 1 info and
the file you<br>
>>>> want to drop-off.<br>
>>>> <br>
>>>> The 980 megabyte upload took 20 minutes at around
850 Kilobytes<br>
>>>> per second. It is not a timing parameter issue
somewhere<br>
>>>> because I can upload a file externally that is
like 400 meg<br>
>>>> that takes an hour to send and it works.<br>
>>>> <br>
>>>> It does not go to the drop-off summary page.<br>
>>>> <br>
>>>> All uploads below 850 megabytes are working fine
still.<br>
>>>> <br>
>>>> I still have my zendto directory from before I
started all the<br>
>>>> progress bar updates. Even with the extensions to
MySQL that I<br>
>>>> ran with the 3.70 upgrade can I go back? I want
to verify if I<br>
>>>> am having an issue with large uploads on the
version I was<br>
>>>> running for the last couple months. I think that
is 3.62. I<br>
>>>> am hoping if I put 3.62 back in place, it won't
care about the<br>
>>>> extensions to the DB.<br>
>>>> <br>
>>>> Thanks<br>
>>>> <br>
>>>> Brian<br>
>>>> <br>
>>>> <br>
>>>> <br>
>>>> BRIAN M. DUNCAN Data Security Administrator
Katten Muchin<br>
>>>> Rosenman LLP 525 W. Monroe Street / Chicago, IL
60661-3693 p /<br>
>>>> (312) 577-8045 f / (312) 577-4490
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:brian.duncan@kattenlaw.com">brian.duncan@kattenlaw.com</a> /<br>
>>>> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.kattenlaw.com">www.kattenlaw.com</a><br>
>>>> <br>
>>>> <br>
>>>> <br>
>>>> <br>
>>>> ------------------------- *From:*
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:zendto-bounces@zend.to">zendto-bounces@zend.to</a><br>
>>>> [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:zendto-bounces@zend.to">mailto:zendto-bounces@zend.to</a>] *On Behalf Of
*Jules *Sent:*<br>
>>>> Tuesday, February 22, 2011 5:13 AM *To:* ZendTo
Users <br>
>>>> *Subject:* [ZendTo] Re: ZendTo 3.70 released<br>
>>>> <br>
>>>> Have just uploaded 3.70-2 to the website for you.
It contains<br>
>>>> the fixed new_dropoff.tpl file.<br>
>>>> <br>
>>>> Jules.<br>
>>>> <br>
>>>> On 21/02/2011 21:12, Duncan, Brian M. wrote:<br>
>>>>> <br>
>>>>> Thanks<br>
>>>>> <br>
>>>>> I updated to the new version. Not having
great results, and<br>
>>>>> turning the progress bars off results in
worse results.<br>
>>>>> <br>
>>>>> With progress bars turned on
'useRealProgressBar' => TRUE,<br>
>>>>> uploads work fine up to around 850 megabytes
still.<br>
>>>>> <br>
>>>>> With progress bars turned on, this is what a
950 meg upload<br>
>>>>> displays after like 30% of the file is being
uploaded: And<br>
>>>>> when the upload does finish zendto acts like
a file was never<br>
>>>>> sent the progress bar goes away and you are
back at the point<br>
>>>>> that you can select the file you want to drop
off. (The drop<br>
>>>>> off summary page that normally comes up at
the end of an<br>
>>>>> upload, does not come up)<br>
>>>>> <br>
>>>>> <br>
>>>>> <br>
>>>>> <br>
>>>>> When I turn the progress bar off in the<br>
>>>>> preferences('useRealProgressBar' =>
FALSE,) I get an error<br>
>>>>> on the page when I try to drop a file off (it
does not<br>
>>>>> upload) and it just stays at the animated gif
for ever.<br>
>>>>> <br>
>>>>> In firefox, I just get the animated GIF for
ever after I<br>
>>>>> click Drop-off the File(s). (there is no
error displayed<br>
>>>>> anywhere on the browser window) It does not
upload.<br>
>>>>> <br>
>>>>> I used the TGZ and overwrote all the files
and then manually<br>
>>>>> updated the configs again from scratch.<br>
>>>>> <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.zend.to/files/ZendTo-3.70-1.tgz">http://www.zend.to/files/ZendTo-3.70-1.tgz</a><br>
>>>>> <br>
>>>>> Any idea on the animated GIF not working now?
I am assuming<br>
>>>>> the current progress bar is not an option
since anything<br>
>>>>> larger then 850 megs does not work on an
upload. Can anyone<br>
>>>>> else confirm they can't get an upload to work
when using the<br>
>>>>> progress bar?<br>
>>>>> <br>
>>>>> Thanks<br>
>>>>> <br>
>>>>> <br>
>>>>> <br>
>>>>> <br>
>>>>> <br>
>>>>> <br>
>>>>> BRIAN M. DUNCAN Data Security Administrator
Katten Muchin<br>
>>>>> Rosenman LLP 525 W. Monroe Street / Chicago,
IL 60661-3693 p<br>
>>>>> / (312) 577-8045 f / (312) 577-4490 <br>
>>>>> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:brian.duncan@kattenlaw.com">brian.duncan@kattenlaw.com</a> /
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.kattenlaw.com">www.kattenlaw.com</a><br>
>>>>> <br>
>>>>> -----Original Message----- From:
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:zendto-bounces@zend.to">zendto-bounces@zend.to</a><br>
>>>>> [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:zendto-bounces@zend.to">mailto:zendto-bounces@zend.to</a>] On Behalf Of
Jules Sent:<br>
>>>>> Monday, February 21, 2011 9:32 AM To: ZendTo
Users Subject:<br>
>>>>> [ZendTo] Re: ZendTo 3.70 released<br>
>>>>> <br>
>>>>> <br>
>>>>> <br>
>>>>> On 21/02/2011 15:23, Duncan, Brian M. wrote:<br>
>>>>>> So with 3.70 is the progress bars any
different from<br>
>>>>>> previous versions?<br>
>>>>> I've changed the timings which might well
affect its<br>
>>>>> performance.<br>
>>>>>> Did you add the feature to turn them on
and off?<br>
>>>>> Yes.<br>
>>>>>> I was just wondering because I have to
troubleshoot the<br>
>>>>>> issue we are having with people not being
able to upload<br>
>>>>>> files larger then 850 megabytes today,
and was thinking I<br>
>>>>>> would start out by updating to the
current version.<br>
>>>>> That wouldn't be a bad idea. Then you can
just abandon the<br>
>>>>> progress bars for now if you want to.<br>
>>>>> <br>
>>>>> And if you're using Ubuntu, you can use my
shiny new .deb<br>
>>>>> package! :-)<br>
>>>>> <br>
>>>>> Cheers, Jules.<br>
>>>>>> -----Original Message----- From:
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:zendto-bounces@zend.to">zendto-bounces@zend.to</a><br>
>>>>>> [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:zendto-bounces@zend.to">mailto:zendto-bounces@zend.to</a>] On Behalf
Of Jules Sent:<br>
>>>>>> Monday, February 21, 2011 5:04 AM To:
ZendTo Users Subject:<br>
>>>>>> [ZendTo] ZendTo 3.70 released<br>
>>>>>> <br>
>>>>>> I have just put out a testing release,
3.70. It includes<br>
>>>>>> the progress bars, with a few updates
from the weekend.<br>
>>>>>> <br>
>>>>>> It also includes the new "Send a Request"
feature so you<br>
>>>>>> can easily ask people to send you files
using ZendTo<br>
>>>>>> without them having to jump through hoops
to do it. Perfect<br>
>>>>>> for your customer service operations!<br>
>>>>>> <br>
>>>>>> Note that this feature requires a new
database table, so if<br>
>>>>>> you're upgrading with SQLite see
/opt/zendto/sbin/UPGRADE.<br>
>>>>>> If you're upgrading with MySQL see
/opt/zendto/sql.<br>
>>>>>> <br>
>>>>>> Jules<br>
>>>>>> <br>
>>>>>> -- Julian Field MEng CITP CEng
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.Zend.To">www.Zend.To</a><br>
>>>>>> <br>
>>>>>> Follow me at twitter.com/JulesFM PGP
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