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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">We run CentOS 5.5 on all of our linux servers. I tried twice to install the progress bar mod and once it ended in something horrific happening in which I had
to restore to a prior snapshot to recover from. The other time I got the iFrame (with a border around it), but nothing in it (in IE 8). In Opera, I get an error and some of the packages have a hard time installing… so I just gave up on it. For us, even
though it would be useful, it’s not a game breaker </span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:#1F497D">J</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext"> zendto-bounces@zend.to [mailto:zendto-bounces@zend.to]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Duncan, Brian M.<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, February 09, 2011 1:13 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> ZendTo Users<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [ZendTo] Re: Progress bars - APC installation error<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue">I just asked because with CentOS we have to update all those PHP components to apply the new progress bar. So I figured it opens the door for something possibly
being different.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue">I honestly had no idea how or what generates the progress bar. Was just looking for any differences. I can't understand why I can get progress bar activity on the
screen on everything but IE at this point.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue">Does anyone else on the list that is using the CentOS build currently have the new progress bar applied?
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue">If so can you confirm if with IE 7 and above you get the percentage count when uploading a file?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue">I am also going to try IE 9 beta next.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue">Thanks!</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:10.0pt">BRIAN M. DUNCAN<br>
Data Security Administrator<br>
Katten Muchin Rosenman LLP<br>
525 W. Monroe Street / Chicago, IL 60661-3693<br>
p / (312) 577-8045 f / (312) 577-4490<br>
<a href="mailto:brian.duncan@kattenlaw.com">brian.duncan@kattenlaw.com</a> / <a href="http://www.kattenlaw.com">
www.kattenlaw.com</a><br>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> zendto-bounces@zend.to [mailto:zendto-bounces@zend.to]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Jules<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, February 09, 2011 11:24 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> ZendTo Users<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [ZendTo] Re: Progress bars - APC installation error</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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On 09/02/2011 17:16, Duncan, Brian M. wrote: <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue">I went back and re-applied everything again and double checked everything.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue">The browsers I can get to display the progress properly with uploads in zendto or myzendto is Firefox, Chrome, and now Opera 11 seems to work.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue">IE 6, 7 or 8 does not display the status bar for me, I tested from multiple IE 7 & 8 installs on other PC's in our enviornment and outside.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue">So at this point I have test IE 6, IE7 and IE8 on different PC's. (I don't expect IE 6 to work, just used it for testing)</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue">When you said you verified this worked with IE 7 was that against a Ubuntu build or CentOS?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Ubuntu. IE9beta displays it for me too, against an Ubuntu installation. But the installation shouldn't make any difference as it's the same HTML being displayed, shouldn't it?<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue">Thanks</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:10.0pt">BRIAN M. DUNCAN<br>
Data Security Administrator<br>
Katten Muchin Rosenman LLP<br>
525 W. Monroe Street / Chicago, IL 60661-3693<br>
p / (312) 577-8045 f / (312) 577-4490<br>
<a href="mailto:brian.duncan@kattenlaw.com">brian.duncan@kattenlaw.com</a> / <a href="http://www.kattenlaw.com">
www.kattenlaw.com</a><br>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">
<a href="mailto:zendto-bounces@zend.to">zendto-bounces@zend.to</a> [<a href="mailto:zendto-bounces@zend.to">mailto:zendto-bounces@zend.to</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Duncan, Brian M.<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, February 08, 2011 11:06 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> ZendTo Users<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [ZendTo] Re: Progress bars - APC installation error</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue">Oh, OK thanks then maybe it is just my install. I will try going through the steps again.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:10.0pt">BRIAN M. DUNCAN<br>
Data Security Administrator<br>
Katten Muchin Rosenman LLP<br>
525 W. Monroe Street / Chicago, IL 60661-3693<br>
p / (312) 577-8045 f / (312) 577-4490<br>
<a href="mailto:brian.duncan@kattenlaw.com">brian.duncan@kattenlaw.com</a> / <a href="http://www.kattenlaw.com">
www.kattenlaw.com</a><br>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">
<a href="mailto:zendto-bounces@zend.to">zendto-bounces@zend.to</a> [<a href="mailto:zendto-bounces@zend.to">mailto:zendto-bounces@zend.to</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Jules<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, February 08, 2011 10:20 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> ZendTo Users<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [ZendTo] Re: Progress bars - APC installation error</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">In IE7, it updated fine but just didn't quite render correctly (a visible border around the IFRAME).<br>
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On 08/02/2011 14:50, Duncan, Brian M. wrote: <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue">OK sounds good, I am just reporting what I was finding.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue">Can anyone else verify they don't get the progress bar updating with browsers like IE 7 and Opera?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue">I want to make sure it not just me.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue">Thanks</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:10.0pt">BRIAN M. DUNCAN<br>
Data Security Administrator<br>
Katten Muchin Rosenman LLP<br>
525 W. Monroe Street / Chicago, IL 60661-3693<br>
p / (312) 577-8045 f / (312) 577-4490<br>
<a href="mailto:brian.duncan@kattenlaw.com">brian.duncan@kattenlaw.com</a> / <a href="http://www.kattenlaw.com">
www.kattenlaw.com</a><br>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">
<a href="mailto:zendto-bounces@zend.to">zendto-bounces@zend.to</a> [<a href="mailto:zendto-bounces@zend.to">mailto:zendto-bounces@zend.to</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Jules<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, February 08, 2011 3:21 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> ZendTo Users<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [ZendTo] Re: Progress bars - APC installation error</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Please do remember that this is just a temporary addition for you, while my friend starts to design the new look for the UI. He will test that properly, and is far better at writing HTML and CSS than I am!<br>
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Jules.<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue">I also tried Opera 11.01 and the progress bar did not work for me on an upload.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue">So for me IE 7 an Opera 11.01 did not work.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue">But it did with Firefox. Can anyone else confirm this? Is it just me?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue">Thanks</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:10.0pt">BRIAN M. DUNCAN<br>
Data Security Administrator<br>
Katten Muchin Rosenman LLP<br>
525 W. Monroe Street / Chicago, IL 60661-3693<br>
p / (312) 577-8045 f / (312) 577-4490<br>
<a href="mailto:brian.duncan@kattenlaw.com">brian.duncan@kattenlaw.com</a> / <a href="http://www.kattenlaw.com">
www.kattenlaw.com</a><br>
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<a href="mailto:zendto-bounces@zend.to">zendto-bounces@zend.to</a> [<a href="mailto:zendto-bounces@zend.to">mailto:zendto-bounces@zend.to</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Duncan, Brian M.<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, February 07, 2011 10:38 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> ZendTo Users<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [ZendTo] Re: Progress bars - APC installation error</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue">Thanks, the setting works if I set that. (It is 1 less then whatever is set in the PHP.ini but that is easy to work around)</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue">Sorry, The problem seems to always appear with IE7. (myzendto or zendto)</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue">With Firefox it displays fine with myzendto or zendto.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:10.0pt">BRIAN M. DUNCAN<br>
Data Security Administrator<br>
Katten Muchin Rosenman LLP<br>
525 W. Monroe Street / Chicago, IL 60661-3693<br>
p / (312) 577-8045 f / (312) 577-4490<br>
<a href="mailto:brian.duncan@kattenlaw.com">brian.duncan@kattenlaw.com</a> / <a href="http://www.kattenlaw.com">
www.kattenlaw.com</a><br>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">
<a href="mailto:zendto-bounces@zend.to">zendto-bounces@zend.to</a> [<a href="mailto:zendto-bounces@zend.to">mailto:zendto-bounces@zend.to</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Jules<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, February 07, 2011 9:37 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> ZendTo Users<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [ZendTo] Re: Progress bars - APC installation error</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">On 07/02/2011 15:29, Duncan, Brian M. wrote: <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue">Thanks</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue">I just downloaded the updated tgz and extracted over my previous version that I had updated to work with your last progress bar update.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue">The attachment limit works now. Stops at 19. You mention using 5, is that configurable somewhere now? Our documentation for users was written to say there was a
20 limit. Was curious if I can change it from 19 to 20 somewhere.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">There is a setting in your php.ini file called "max_file_uploads". Set that to the value you want.<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue">I found an issue with the progress bar and what browser I use though.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue">IE 7:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue">The progress bar looks big and it never shows progress during the upload. When I set apache back to zendto and the preferences to use zendto, the progress bar does
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<p class="MsoNormal">Are you saying the problem only appears in MyZendTo with IE7, or it always appears with IE7?<br>
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