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If I get time very soon, I will do a release of the current UI with
progress bar added for CentOS and Ubuntu. It isn't too hard for me
to do.<br>
<br>
If I get a quiet day tomorrow, it's top of my non-day-job list.<br>
<br>
Jules.<br>
<br>
On 09/02/2011 18:19, Joshua F. Withrow wrote:
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
"Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31,
73, 125);">We run CentOS 5.5 on all of our linux servers. I
tried twice to install the progress bar mod and once it
ended in something horrific happening in which I had to
restore to a prior snapshot to recover from. The other time
I got the iFrame (with a border around it), but nothing in
it (in IE 8). In Opera, I get an error and some of the
packages have a hard time installing… so I just gave up on
it. For us, even though it would be useful, it’s not a game
breaker </span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
Wingdings; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">J</span><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
"Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31,
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size: 10pt;
font-family:
"Tahoma","sans-serif"; color:
windowtext;">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:
10pt; font-family:
"Tahoma","sans-serif"; color:
windowtext;"> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:zendto-bounces@zend.to">zendto-bounces@zend.to</a>
[<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:zendto-bounces@zend.to">mailto:zendto-bounces@zend.to</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Duncan, Brian M.<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, February 09, 2011 1:13 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> ZendTo Users<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [ZendTo] Re: Progress bars - APC
installation error<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family:
"Arial","sans-serif"; color: blue;">I
just asked because with CentOS we have to update all those
PHP components to apply the new progress bar. So I figured
it opens the door for something possibly being different.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family:
"Arial","sans-serif"; color: blue;">I
honestly had no idea how or what generates the progress
bar. Was just looking for any differences. I can't
understand why I can get progress bar activity on the
screen on everything but IE at this point.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family:
"Arial","sans-serif"; color: blue;">Does
anyone else on the list that is using the CentOS build
currently have the new progress bar applied?
</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family:
"Arial","sans-serif"; color: blue;">If
so can you confirm if with IE 7 and above you get the
percentage count when uploading a file?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family:
"Arial","sans-serif"; color: blue;">I am
also going to try IE 9 beta next.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt;
font-family: "Arial","sans-serif";
color: blue;">Thanks!</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt;
font-family: "Arial","sans-serif";
color: blue;">Brian</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<p><span style="font-size: 10pt;">BRIAN M. DUNCAN<br>
Data Security Administrator<br>
Katten Muchin Rosenman LLP<br>
525 W. Monroe Street / Chicago, IL 60661-3693<br>
p / (312) 577-8045 f / (312) 577-4490<br>
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:brian.duncan@kattenlaw.com">brian.duncan@kattenlaw.com</a>
/ <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.kattenlaw.com">
www.kattenlaw.com</a><br>
</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;"
align="center">
<hr align="center" size="2" width="100%">
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 12pt;"><b><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family:
"Tahoma","sans-serif";">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family:
"Tahoma","sans-serif";">
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:zendto-bounces@zend.to">zendto-bounces@zend.to</a> [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:zendto-bounces@zend.to">mailto:zendto-bounces@zend.to</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Jules<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, February 09, 2011 11:24 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> ZendTo Users<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [ZendTo] Re: Progress bars - APC
installation error</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><br>
<br>
On 09/02/2011 17:16, Duncan, Brian M. wrote: <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family:
"Arial","sans-serif"; color: blue;">I
went back and re-applied everything again and double
checked everything.
</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family:
"Arial","sans-serif"; color: blue;">The
browsers I can get to display the progress properly with
uploads in zendto or myzendto is Firefox, Chrome, and now
Opera 11 seems to work.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family:
"Arial","sans-serif"; color: blue;">IE
6, 7 or 8 does not display the status bar for me, I tested
from multiple IE 7 & 8 installs on other PC's in our
enviornment and outside.
</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family:
"Arial","sans-serif"; color: blue;">So
at this point I have test IE 6, IE7 and IE8 on different
PC's. (I don't expect IE 6 to work, just used it for
testing)</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family:
"Arial","sans-serif"; color: blue;">When
you said you verified this worked with IE 7 was that against
a Ubuntu build or CentOS?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Ubuntu. IE9beta displays it for me too,
against an Ubuntu installation. But the installation shouldn't
make any difference as it's the same HTML being displayed,
shouldn't it?<br>
<br>
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family:
"Arial","sans-serif"; color: blue;">Thanks</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family:
"Arial","sans-serif"; color: blue;">Brian</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 10pt;">BRIAN M. DUNCAN<br>
Data Security Administrator<br>
Katten Muchin Rosenman LLP<br>
525 W. Monroe Street / Chicago, IL 60661-3693<br>
p / (312) 577-8045 f / (312) 577-4490<br>
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:brian.duncan@kattenlaw.com">brian.duncan@kattenlaw.com</a>
/ <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.kattenlaw.com">
www.kattenlaw.com</a><br>
</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;"
align="center">
<hr align="center" size="2" width="100%">
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 12pt;"><b><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family:
"Tahoma","sans-serif";">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family:
"Tahoma","sans-serif";">
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:zendto-bounces@zend.to">zendto-bounces@zend.to</a>
[<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:zendto-bounces@zend.to">mailto:zendto-bounces@zend.to</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Duncan, Brian M.<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, February 08, 2011 11:06 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> ZendTo Users<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [ZendTo] Re: Progress bars - APC
installation error</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family:
"Arial","sans-serif"; color: blue;">Oh,
OK thanks then maybe it is just my install. I will try going
through the steps again.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<p><span style="font-size: 10pt;">BRIAN M. DUNCAN<br>
Data Security Administrator<br>
Katten Muchin Rosenman LLP<br>
525 W. Monroe Street / Chicago, IL 60661-3693<br>
p / (312) 577-8045 f / (312) 577-4490<br>
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:brian.duncan@kattenlaw.com">brian.duncan@kattenlaw.com</a>
/ <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.kattenlaw.com">
www.kattenlaw.com</a><br>
</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;"
align="center">
<hr align="center" size="2" width="100%">
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 12pt;"><b><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family:
"Tahoma","sans-serif";">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family:
"Tahoma","sans-serif";">
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:zendto-bounces@zend.to">zendto-bounces@zend.to</a>
[<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:zendto-bounces@zend.to">mailto:zendto-bounces@zend.to</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Jules<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, February 08, 2011 10:20 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> ZendTo Users<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [ZendTo] Re: Progress bars - APC
installation error</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">In IE7, it updated fine but just didn't
quite render correctly (a visible border around the IFRAME).<br>
<br>
On 08/02/2011 14:50, Duncan, Brian M. wrote: <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family:
"Arial","sans-serif"; color: blue;">OK
sounds good, I am just reporting what I was finding.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family:
"Arial","sans-serif"; color: blue;">Can
anyone else verify they don't get the progress bar updating
with browsers like IE 7 and Opera?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt;
font-family: "Arial","sans-serif";
color: blue;">I want to make sure it not just me.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt;
font-family: "Arial","sans-serif";
color: blue;">Thanks</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<p><span style="font-size: 10pt;">BRIAN M. DUNCAN<br>
Data Security Administrator<br>
Katten Muchin Rosenman LLP<br>
525 W. Monroe Street / Chicago, IL 60661-3693<br>
p / (312) 577-8045 f / (312) 577-4490<br>
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:brian.duncan@kattenlaw.com">brian.duncan@kattenlaw.com</a>
/ <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.kattenlaw.com">
www.kattenlaw.com</a><br>
</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;"
align="center">
<hr align="center" size="2" width="100%">
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 12pt;"><b><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family:
"Tahoma","sans-serif";">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family:
"Tahoma","sans-serif";">
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:zendto-bounces@zend.to">zendto-bounces@zend.to</a>
[<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:zendto-bounces@zend.to">mailto:zendto-bounces@zend.to</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Jules<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, February 08, 2011 3:21 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> ZendTo Users<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [ZendTo] Re: Progress bars - APC
installation error</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Please do remember that this is just a
temporary addition for you, while my friend starts to design
the new look for the UI. He will test that properly, and is
far better at writing HTML and CSS than I am!<br>
<br>
Jules.<br>
<br>
On 07/02/2011 19:55, Duncan, Brian M. wrote: <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family:
"Arial","sans-serif"; color: blue;">I
also tried Opera 11.01 and the progress bar did not work for
me on an upload.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family:
"Arial","sans-serif"; color: blue;">So
for me IE 7 an Opera 11.01 did not work.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family:
"Arial","sans-serif"; color: blue;">But
it did with Firefox. Can anyone else confirm this? Is it
just me?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family:
"Arial","sans-serif"; color: blue;">Thanks</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 10pt;">BRIAN M. DUNCAN<br>
Data Security Administrator<br>
Katten Muchin Rosenman LLP<br>
525 W. Monroe Street / Chicago, IL 60661-3693<br>
p / (312) 577-8045 f / (312) 577-4490<br>
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:brian.duncan@kattenlaw.com">brian.duncan@kattenlaw.com</a>
/ <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.kattenlaw.com">
www.kattenlaw.com</a><br>
</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;"
align="center">
<hr align="center" size="2" width="100%">
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 12pt;"><b><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family:
"Tahoma","sans-serif";">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family:
"Tahoma","sans-serif";">
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:zendto-bounces@zend.to">zendto-bounces@zend.to</a>
[<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:zendto-bounces@zend.to">mailto:zendto-bounces@zend.to</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Duncan, Brian M.<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, February 07, 2011 10:38 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> ZendTo Users<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [ZendTo] Re: Progress bars - APC
installation error</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family:
"Arial","sans-serif"; color: blue;">Thanks,
the setting works if I set that. (It is 1 less then whatever
is set in the PHP.ini but that is easy to work around)</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt;
font-family: "Arial","sans-serif";
color: blue;">Sorry, The problem seems to always appear
with IE7. (myzendto or zendto)</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt;
font-family: "Arial","sans-serif";
color: blue;">With Firefox it displays fine with myzendto
or zendto.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt;
font-family: "Arial","sans-serif";
color: blue;">Brian</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><span style="font-size: 10pt;">BRIAN M. DUNCAN<br>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Jules<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, February 07, 2011 9:37 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> ZendTo Users<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [ZendTo] Re: Progress bars - APC
installation error</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">On 07/02/2011 15:29, Duncan, Brian M.
wrote: <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family:
"Arial","sans-serif"; color: blue;">Thanks</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family:
"Arial","sans-serif"; color: blue;">I
just downloaded the updated tgz and extracted over my
previous version that I had updated to work with your
last progress bar update.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family:
"Arial","sans-serif"; color: blue;">The
attachment limit works now. Stops at 19. You mention
using 5, is that configurable somewhere now? Our
documentation for users was written to say there was a 20
limit. Was curious if I can change it from 19 to 20
somewhere.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">There is a setting in your php.ini file
called "max_file_uploads". Set that to the value you want.<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family:
"Arial","sans-serif"; color: blue;">I
found an issue with the progress bar and what browser I use
though.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family:
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family:
"Arial","sans-serif"; color: blue;">The
progress bar looks big and it never shows progress during
the upload. When I set apache back to zendto and the
preferences to use zendto, the progress bar does the same.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Are you saying the problem only appears in
MyZendTo with IE7, or it always appears with IE7?<br>
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Jules.<br>
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