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    The problem is that people might not have sendmail installed (or
    even a program which fakes it, like Postfix does). I would rather
    use the PHP function call as the PHP build on the machine will have
    been done correctly for that type of system, working around it is
    usually a bad idea.<br>
    <br>
    Also, sendmail is often not present in /usr/lib (that's there for
    ancient historical reasons, not appreciated by all modern system
    builders).<br>
    <br>
    So I'm reluctant to call sendmail directly, as that's avoiding all
    the (sensible) logic in the PHP configuration script when PHP is
    built on that system.<br>
    <br>
    On true sendmail systems (and not necessarily on other mail systems
    that fake the sendmail binary), the Return-Path header will be set
    in the sendmail.cf file. The last thing I want is for people to have
    to edit their sendmail.cf file, they shouldn't have to do that for
    an app which is just trying to send mail and not process it.<br>
    <br>
    Jules.<br>
    <br>
    On 22/09/2010 16:06, Brad Beckenhauer wrote:
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      <div>Ok,</div>
      <div>&nbsp;</div>
      <div>I'm not&nbsp;a PHP programmer, but I researched this issue and
        found this reported issue as a bug on the PHP Solaris forum back
        in 2004.</div>
      <div>&nbsp;</div>
      <div><a moz-do-not-send="true"
          href="http://bugs.php.net/bug.php?id=29122"><font
            color="#0066cc">http://bugs.php.net/bug.php?id=29122</font></a></div>
      <div>&nbsp;</div>
      <div>I also applied the code presented in the above bug trac and
        substituted the logic from the bug trac with the mail() logic
        and the&nbsp;Return-Path works (Diff below).</div>
      <div>&nbsp;</div>
      <div>
        <div>I uncompressed the Julian's php rpm package in the Zendto
          centos-64 vm and found that the bug was not present in&nbsp;that
          package, so the issue appears to be an interaction issue
          between sendmail and PHP.&nbsp;&nbsp; Either sendmail is not accepting
          the Return-Path or PHP is not providing (or providing
          incorrectly) the Return-path to sendmail.</div>
        <div>&nbsp;</div>
      </div>
      <div>I also downloaded the current PHP 5.2 build and grep'd for
        the bad code noted in the bug trac that the bug was not present
        in&nbsp;that package.</div>
      <div>&nbsp;</div>
      <div>
        <div>Julian,</div>
        <div>As usual, I'll defer to you on what you'd like to do as far
          as final code changes.&nbsp;&nbsp; I'm just reporting my discoveries for
          you.</div>
        <div>&nbsp;</div>
        <div>
          <div>I used Zendto to send an package to a fictitious,
            non-existent email account and received a bounce back to my
            email account from my MTA with the original Zendto message
            attached.&nbsp; Yea!!!</div>
        </div>
        <div>&nbsp;</div>
      </div>
      <div>Below is the diff file for the changes I made that worked,
        you previously used a return&nbsp;statement and this does not and my
        cause issues.</div>
      <div>&nbsp;</div>
      <div>Please let me know what changes you make to the code.</div>
      <div>&nbsp;</div>
      <div>have a good day</div>
      <div>Brad</div>
      <div>&nbsp;</div>
      <div>&nbsp;</div>
      <div>--- NSSDropbox.php.original&nbsp; 2010-09-21 17:20:10.000000000
        -0500<br>
        +++ NSSDropbox.php&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 2010-09-22 08:58:28.000000000 -0500<br>
        @@ -678,14 +678,14 @@<br>
        &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; $content<br>
        &nbsp;&nbsp; )<br>
        &nbsp;&nbsp; {<br>
        -&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; return mail(<br>
        -&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; $toAddr,<br>
        -&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; $subject,<br>
        -&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; $content,<br>
        -&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; ($fromAddr==""?"":sprintf("From: %s\r\nReply-to:
        %s\r\n",<br>
        -&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; $fromAddr, $fromAddr)<br>
        -&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; )<br>
        -&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; );<br>
        +&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; // running php rpm: php-5.1.6-27.jkf<br>
        +&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; // issue between&nbsp;PHP mail() function and sendmail where
        sendmail is not </div>
      <div>+&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; // accepting/receiving the 'Return-Path' from PHP.<br>
        +&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; // similar to bug: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
          href="http://bugs.php.net/bug.php?id=29122">http://bugs.php.net/bug.php?id=29122</a><br>
        +&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; $tmp_msg_string = "To: $toAddr\nSubject:&nbsp;
        $subject\n\n$content\n";<br>
        +&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; $tmp_handle = popen ("/usr/lib/sendmail -f$fromAddr
        $toAddr", "w");<br>
        +&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; fwrite ($tmp_handle, $tmp_msg_string);<br>
        +&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; $result = pclose ($tmp_handle);<br>
        &nbsp;&nbsp; }</div>
      <div>&nbsp;</div>
      <div>&nbsp;&nbsp; /*!<br>
        <br>
        <br>
        &gt;&gt;&gt; On 9/21/2010 at 6:46 PM, in message
        <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:4C9943F1.2070900@Zend.To">&lt;4C9943F1.2070900@Zend.To&gt;</a>, Jules <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:Jules@zend.to">&lt;Jules@zend.to&gt;</a>
        wrote:<br>
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              <div style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(5, 5, 5);
                padding-left: 7px;">Try setting "Errors-To:" instead of
                "Return-Path:".<br>
                <br>
                On 22/09/2010 00:03, Brad Beckenhauer wrote:
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                  <div>Looks like sendmail is overriding php.</div>
                  <div>&nbsp;</div>
                  <div>Drupal had a similiar issue.</div>
                  <div>see:</div>
                  <div><a href="http://drupal.org/node/131737"
                      moz-do-not-send="true">http://drupal.org/node/131737</a></div>
                  <div>&nbsp;</div>
                  <div>brad<br>
                    <br>
                    &gt;&gt;&gt; On 9/21/2010 at 4:32 PM, in message <a
                      moz-do-not-send="true"
                      class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
                      href="mailto:4C99246D.9000205@Zend.To">&lt;4C99246D.9000205@Zend.To&gt;</a>,
                    Jules <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                      class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
                      href="mailto:Jules@zend.to">&lt;Jules@zend.to&gt;</a>
                    wrote:<br>
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                            5); padding-left: 7px;">In
                            lib/NSSDropbox.php change<br>
                            <br>
                            --- SNIP ---<br>
                            &nbsp; public function deliverEmail(<br>
                            &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; $toAddr,<br>
                            &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; $fromAddr,<br>
                            &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; $subject,<br>
                            &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; $content<br>
                            &nbsp; )<br>
                            &nbsp; {<br>
                            &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; return mail(<br>
                            &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; $toAddr,<br>
                            &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; $subject,<br>
                            &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; $content,<br>
                            &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
                            ($fromAddr==""?"":sprintf("From:
                            %s\r\nReply-to: %s\r\n",<br>
                            &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
                            $fromAddr, $fromAddr)<br>
                            &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; )<br>
                            &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; );<br>
                            &nbsp; }<br>
                            --- SNIP ---<br>
                            to this:<br>
                            --- SNIP ---<br>
                            &nbsp; public function deliverEmail(<br>
                            &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; $toAddr,<br>
                            &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; $fromAddr,<br>
                            &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; $subject,<br>
                            &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; $content<br>
                            &nbsp; )<br>
                            &nbsp; {<br>
                            &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; return mail(<br>
                            &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; $toAddr,<br>
                            &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; $subject,<br>
                            &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; $content,<br>
                            &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
                            ($fromAddr==""?"":sprintf("From:
                            %s\r\nReply-to: %s\r\nReturn-Path: %s\r\n",<br>
                            &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
                            $fromAddr, $fromAddr, $fromAddr)<br>
                            &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; )<br>
                            &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; );<br>
                            &nbsp; }<br>
                            --- SNIP ---<br>
                            <br>
                            Please let me know if this solves the
                            problem for you, and I will put it into the
                            code.<br>
                            <br>
                            Jules.<br>
                            <br>
                            On 21/09/2010 21:48, Brad Beckenhauer wrote:
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                              <div>I was looking at this same issue
                                yesterday, but ran out of time.</div>
                              <div>&nbsp;</div>
                              <div>a snip from the web on the
                                Return-Path</div>
                              <div>&nbsp;</div>
                              <div>Envelope information: Return-Path,
                                Received<br>
                                Return-Path<br>
                                The value of a Return-Path field is
                                tokenizable. It shows the return path of
                                the message, i.e., the address that
                                bounces will be sent to. It is either
                                (1) a &lt; token followed by a &gt;
                                token, indicating an empty return path,
                                or (2) a bracketed address. Two
                                examples:</div>
                              <div>&nbsp;</div>
                              <div>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Return-Path: &lt;&gt;<br>
                                &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Return-Path: &lt;<a
                                  href="mailto:God@heaven.af.mil"
                                  moz-do-not-send="true">God@heaven.af.mil</a>&gt;</div>
                              <div>&nbsp;</div>
                              <div>Messages transmitted through SMTP
                                generally do not have Return-Path
                                fields; the return path is transmitted
                                out-of-band in the SMTP MAIL request.
                                When a message is stored in a mailbox,
                                the return path is stored in a
                                Return-Path field. If the message is
                                then retrieved (e.g., through POP) and
                                sent through another SMTP hop, the
                                Return-Path is removed and the return
                                path is again sent out-of-band. </div>
                              <div>&nbsp;</div>
                              <div>&nbsp;</div>
                              <div>I'm pretty sure the function calling
                                it is in the lib/NSSDropbox file, but
                                have not figured out exactly how to add
                                the coding.</div>
                              <div>&nbsp;</div>
                              <div>I'll be watching this thread.</div>
                              <div>Brad</div>
                              <div>&nbsp;</div>
                              <div>&nbsp;</div>
                              <div><br>
                                <br>
                                &gt;&gt;&gt; On 9/21/2010 at 2:44 PM, in
                                message <a
                                  class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:9453A32CAC9FFB4D8F59285E34B6A50604AD27@hotc_exch.harperotc.com"
                                  moz-do-not-send="true">&lt;9453A32CAC9FFB4D8F59285E34B6A50604AD27@hotc_exch.harperotc.com&gt;</a>,
                                "Naz Snidanko" <a
                                  class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
                                  href="mailto:nsnidanko@harperpowerproducts.com"
                                  moz-do-not-send="true">&lt;nsnidanko@harperpowerproducts.com&gt;</a>
                                wrote:<br>
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                                              color="navy" face="Arial"
                                              size="2"><span
                                                style="font-family:
                                                Arial; color: navy;
                                                font-size: 10pt;">Hi,
                                                ZendTo Users</span></font></p>
                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><font
                                              color="navy" face="Arial"
                                              size="2"><span
                                                style="font-family:
                                                Arial; color: navy;
                                                font-size: 10pt;">Scenario:</span></font></p>
                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><font
                                              color="navy" face="Arial"
                                              size="2"><span
                                                style="font-family:
                                                Arial; color: navy;
                                                font-size: 10pt;">User
                                                creates dropoff but
                                                misspells email address.
                                                MTA tries to deliver but
                                                domain has no MX record,
                                                so it generates
                                                bounce-back email sent
                                                to Return-Path: header
                                                value, which goes
                                                nowhere (<a
                                                  href="mailto:www-data@server.domain.com"
                                                  moz-do-not-send="true">www-data@server.domain.com</a>
                                                in my case) and thus it
                                                creates confusion </span></font></p>
                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><font
                                              color="navy" face="Arial"
                                              size="2"><span
                                                style="font-family:
                                                Arial; color: navy;
                                                font-size: 10pt;">How
                                                can I change
                                                Return-Path: header
                                                value for an email
                                                address of the person
                                                that created dropoff? To
                                                either From or Reply-To?
                                                Tis way person will get
                                                bounce back message and
                                                correct his mistake.</span></font></p>
                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><font
                                              color="navy" face="Arial"
                                              size="2"><span
                                                style="font-family:
                                                Arial; color: navy;
                                                font-size: 10pt;">Please
                                                advice,</span></font></p>
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                                                    style="font-family:
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                                                    style="font-family:
                                                    Georgia; font-size:
                                                    8pt; font-weight:
                                                    bold;">Desktop &amp;
                                                    Network Support</span></font></b></p>
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                                                    style="font-family:
                                                    Georgia; font-size:
                                                    8pt; font-weight:
                                                    bold;">Harper Power
                                                    Products Inc.</span></font></b></p>
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