<div>Oops, Google Inbox seems to be unable to keep my multiple e-mail addresses straight. #beta<br></div><div><br></div><div>Forwarding my somewhat sarcastic response. If my understanding is wrong please lmk. Am also keen to hear about the ToS for MS Health(Vault)</div><div><br></div><div>Best,<br></div><div>Max<br><div><br><div class="gmail_quote">++</div><div class="gmail_quote"><br>Sociam-soton has become a slow version of hacker news / reddit. :) <div><br></div><div style="line-height:19.7999992370605px">MS tries to play catchup again.. a<span style="line-height:1.5">m unimpressed so far; not only is the Band insanely clunky but a</span><span style="line-height:19.7999992370605px">ll the sensing modalities are bog-standard. </span><span style="line-height:19.7999992370605px">Very sad to see no genuine innovation that MS could bring to the table - like Kinect or gyro- based activity recognition for example. And </span><span style="line-height:1.5">many of its functions (despite being "cross platform") require a Windows Phone. Unsurprising..</span></div><div><br></div><div>So far it's "let's feebly try to catch up with iWatch". A diff on features at the surface level introduces two new things in the Band that are seen as core features (when I think they're already assumed for the iWatch) are Guided Workouts and "UV index". But what's puzzling is that Apple introduced the iWatch as a smartphone platform (just like the iPhone) where anyone can write apps that use its affordances - so ofc a UV index app that feeds off of weather would be a no-brainer. On the other hand, there is absolutely no mention of the Band being a "platform" as far as I can see, so I would guess that the Band is NOT open to developers. </div><div><br></div><div>In the advert for Microsoft Band, they said "Only Microsoft has the Machine Learning expertise to make you more productive". What?? Yes there are some ML gurus at MSR, but since when is this a sell point? ML should be invisible and seamless not a bullet point on some salesperson's roster. I think they're trying to up their "Intelligence Engine" :</div><div><br></div><div>"Over time, you will have the choice to combine your fitness data with calendar and email information from Office as well as location-based information and more. As you make more data available, the Intelligence Engine will get smarter and provide more powerful insights, such as: <span style="line-height:1.5">Fitness performance relative to work schedule, </span><span style="line-height:1.5">Whether eating breakfast helps you run faster, </span><span style="line-height:1.5">If the number of meetings during the day impacts sleep quality."</span></div><div><span style="line-height:1.5"><br></span></div><div><span style="line-height:1.5">Sounds like a pre-baked and </span>unchangeable<span style="line-height:1.5"> version of Bentley's Motorola experiments that simply performed cross-modality correaltion....</span></div><div><span style="line-height:1.5"><br></span></div><div>Price point difference : Band is $199. iWatch starts at $399 and goes up up and up. But the difference is WatchKit -- iWatch is a platform, not a gadget.</div><div><br></div><div><div><span style="line-height:1.5">Max</span><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri Oct 31 2014 at 7:19:54 AM Darren Richardson <<a href="mailto:dpr1g09@ecs.soton.ac.uk" target="_blank">dpr1g09@ecs.soton.ac.uk</a>> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Fitbit also announced a new range of trackers this week. The one that caught my attention was the Charge HR, which does continuous heart rate monitoring all day, every day.<br>
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It'd be interesting to know what additional steps (ha ha) they've taken to protect that data, which is almost certainly a whole lot more sensitive than the data they've been collecting up to now. Depending on the resolution and accuracy, that long-term data could be invaluable for the purposes of medical diagnosis.<br>
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I'd need to look a lot more closely at their API, privacy policy, and TOS (not necessarily in that order) before I could be convinced to wear one, which is a shame, because part of me really wants that data.<br>
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> On 31 Oct 2014, at 01:26, Laura Dragan <<a href="mailto:lcd@ecs.soton.ac.uk" target="_blank">lcd@ecs.soton.ac.uk</a>> wrote:<br>
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> And their "band" looks good too, feature-wise:<br>
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> <a href="http://www.cnet.com/uk/news/microsoft-band-is-a-windows-phone-fitness-tracker-that-works-with-android-and-iphone-too/" target="_blank">http://www.cnet.com/uk/news/<u></u>mi<u></u>crosoft-band-is-a-windows-<u></u>phon<u></u>e-fitness-tracker-that-<u></u>works-<u></u>with-android-and-iphone-<u></u>too/</a><br>
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>> On 10/31/2014 12:50 AM, Tinati R. wrote:<br>
>> Hi all,<br>
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>> Most of you are probably already aware of this, bit just incase you haven't heard, Microsoft have just released their health platform:<br>
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>> <a href="http://blogs.microsoft.com/blog/2014/10/29/introducing-microsoft-health/" target="_blank">http://blogs.microsoft.com/<u></u>blo<u></u>g/2014/10/29/introducing-<u></u>micro<u></u>soft-health/</a><br>
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>> Ramine<br>
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