[Sociam-soton] Re: Web Observatory paper

Hugh Glaser hg at ecs.soton.ac.uk
Wed Feb 27 20:05:10 GMT 2013


I thought I would challenge Ramine's comment on Linked Data. :-)
But actually there is quite a serious issue here.
Linked Data is possibly a bit like Dark Matter (if you stretch the analogy).

It is very hard to see - if you ask Google for an rdf document it doesn't know about it, for a start.
And there is actually probably quite a lot of it about - Good Relations, Freebase, BBC, Libraries, MusicBrainz spring to mind.
It is actually really hard to know what is going on.
Perhaps it is so inert it is not observable at all.
But it would be very interesting to know what is going on.

Observing twitter etc is a bit like observing objects with an Apparent Magnitude of less than 5.72.

On 26 Feb 2013, at 23:08, Dr Daniel A Smith <ds at ecs.soton.ac.uk> wrote:

> Those services are more stream-y/changing/realtime than archives like libraries, and thus tend to offer APIs to the latest data, rather than linked data.
> 
> Dan
> 
> 
> On 26 Feb 2013, at 23:00, "Ramine Tinati" <rt506 at ecs.soton.ac.uk> wrote:
> 
>> I was thinking more about the services that we have been talking about in
>> the SOCIAM meetings, i.e. Facebook, Twitter, Nike Fuel, Galaxy Zoo.
>> 
>> But good point about the national libraries, that would be a great source to
>> link to.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Ramine
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: sociam-soton-bounces at ecs.soton.ac.uk
>> [mailto:sociam-soton-bounces at ecs.soton.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Hugh Glaser
>> Sent: 26 February 2013 22:55
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>> Cc: <sociam-soton at ecs.soton.ac.uk>
>> Subject: [Sociam-soton] Re: Web Observatory paper
>> 
>> 
>> On 26 Feb 2013, at 22:48, Ramine Tinati <rt506 at ecs.soton.ac.uk>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> This is great, thanks Kieron! 
>>> 
>>> The only problem I have is that apart from DBpedia, what other 
>>> services are offered in Linked Data formats,
>> http://lmgtfy.com/?q=linked+data+services
>> Well clearly most of the national libraries for a start.
>> 
>>> thus how useful is it to provide an
>>> observatory of Linked Data?
>>> 
>>> I think our USP is that we are monitor all these different services 
>>> (social machines, if you will), track specific events, and 
>>> (eventually) turn it into some form of Linked Data...!
>>> 
>>> Ramine
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: sociam-soton-bounces at ecs.soton.ac.uk
>>> [mailto:sociam-soton-bounces at ecs.soton.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kieron 
>>> O'Hara
>>> Sent: 26 February 2013 19:49
>>> To: sociam-soton at ecs.soton.ac.uk
>>> Subject: [Sociam-soton] Web Observatory paper
>>> 
>>> For Web Observatory fiends, here is a paper from last year on a 
>>> dynamic linked data observatory,
>> http://ceur-ws.org/Vol-937/ldow2012-paper-14.pdf.
>>> 
>>> However, their acronym, on p.1, is, er, slightly unfortunate. Or maybe 
>>> a hitherto unsuspected Germanic irony has surfaced.
>>> 
>>> Either way, our Unique Selling Point is that we have a better acronym 
>>> than theirs. Whatever our acronym is.
>>> 
>>> Kieron
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