[provenance-challenge] Re: clarifying queries

Joe Futrelle futrelle at ncsa.uiuc.edu
Wed May 27 18:34:02 BST 2009


Not sure OPM structure is enough by itself to identify corresponding nodes across traces of the "same" process given that OPM admits various levels of granularity, specificity, etc.

The challenge definition could have specified some annotations that each team was supposed to produce and then we could use descriptions like "the process whose X property has the value Y" as in PC1.

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Joe Futrelle
Cyberenvironments and Technologies
National Center for Supercomputing Applications
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----- "Paolo Missier" <pmissier at cs.man.ac.uk> wrote:

> Luc,
>   absolutely -- personally, this is a last but significant hurdle for
> 
> me: coming up with query formulations on third party traces.
> well, isn't this an example of "semantic queries" that we hope to
> answer 
> using a purely structural approach? maybe good for discussion
> 
> Cheers, -Paolo
> 
> 
> Luc Moreau wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > Running queries over other teams' opm traces is definitely a
> challenge.
> >
> > To simplify the task, I thought it would be helpful if teams would 
> > publish
> > the ArtifactIds/ProcessIds for the inputs that Paul specified.
> > ... and why not, the Ids where results can be found.
> >
> > What do you think?
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Luc


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