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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Tom will gain useful information about the commercial atmosphere, and in turn how commercial practice fits with PoN and other PATINA components? I think Tom
will need two trips (if the first trip is only a couple of days to free up time for paper writing). He only needs one if he goes for a week. Tom?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext"> patina-bounces@ecs.soton.ac.uk
[mailto:patina-bounces@ecs.soton.ac.uk] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Enrico Costanza<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 26 September 2012 14:42<br>
<b>To:</b> Southampton-specific mailing list for PATINA project<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Patina] Re: Chester<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Is Tom going _just_ to check if a PoN deployment is viable? Or are there other benefits?<br>
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If not, I think this plan is not very efficient.<br>
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There are 2 scenarios:<br>
1) Tom finds out this is <b>not</b> good for PoN => 1 trip<br>
2) Tom finds out this is good for PoN, Mike also goes there => 2 trips<br>
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On the other hand, if Mike just goes in either case we only need 1 trip..<br>
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What do you think?<br>
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Enrico<br>
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On 26/09/2012 14:28, Frankland T. wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<pre>Yep that sounds good to me. I could go observe for a few days next week, and then use the SPIRES money to spend longer there towards the end of the dig. I think it's more likely that there will be more to observe towards the end, but I'm happy to go next week as well to observe and do the groundwork for setting up PoN.<o:p></o:p></pre>
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<pre>Cheers,<o:p></o:p></pre>
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<pre>Tom.<o:p></o:p></pre>
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<pre>On 26 Sep 2012, at 14:10, "Earl G.P." <a href="mailto:graeme.earl@soton.ac.uk"><graeme.earl@soton.ac.uk></a> wrote:<o:p></o:p></pre>
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<pre>Hi Mike,<o:p></o:p></pre>
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<pre>That kit sounds perfect - much better than sim cards. I would suggest that rather than the archaeology laptop Tom gives them the address, if they take their own laptop to site. If they don't then yes leave one with them.<o:p></o:p></pre>
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<pre>I think Tom needs to go up long enough to get useful ethnographic data for his PhD and to provide input to you about the potential PoN use on site, and to gather the data from the first week to pre-populate PoN ready for the next week. In terms of the PhD component perhaps Tom could go up twice - once at the start to gather the information you need and once at the end to reflect on its success, and also to more generally observe practice? This might leave enough time in between to get the ToCHI paper in Tom?<o:p></o:p></pre>
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<pre>Cheers,<o:p></o:p></pre>
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<pre>Graeme<o:p></o:p></pre>
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<pre>From: <a href="mailto:patina-bounces@ecs.soton.ac.uk">patina-bounces@ecs.soton.ac.uk</a> [<a href="mailto:patina-bounces@ecs.soton.ac.uk">mailto:patina-bounces@ecs.soton.ac.uk</a>] On Behalf Of Michael Jewell<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>Sent: 26 September 2012 13:44<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>To: Southampton-specific mailing list for PATINA project<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>Subject: [Patina] Re: Chester<o:p></o:p></pre>
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<pre>I'd think the desktop interface is better for the context data entry (the Android keyboards are fiddly). Maybe the following kit on-site:<o:p></o:p></pre>
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<pre>- 3G wifi dongle provides a hotspot & internet connectivity<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>- The archaeology laptop for entering context data<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>- Mobile phones to create audio/text notes<o:p></o:p></pre>
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<pre>I'm not sure what battery life is like on the devices - so that would need to be checked. It would be good to not have to take a generator!<o:p></o:p></pre>
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<pre>I'd deploy tina.ecs.soton.ac.uk/pon-lp (or similar) that has the 'shared universe' branch, and means that the data is also stored separately from the public deploy.<o:p></o:p></pre>
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<pre>How long would Tom/I need to go up to the site? Could we leave them to use the laptop after a while, or should one of us be on hand? It's a long way to Chester (4-5 hours) and I'm not sure how far the car park is from the station?<o:p></o:p></pre>
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<pre>Cheers,<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>Mike<o:p></o:p></pre>
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<pre>On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 1:05 PM, Earl G.P. <a href="mailto:graeme.earl@soton.ac.uk"><graeme.earl@soton.ac.uk></a> wrote:<o:p></o:p></pre>
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<pre>They would be entering context data on the mobiles as well as filling <o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>in the paper records I guess. G<o:p></o:p></pre>
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<pre>From: <a href="mailto:patina-bounces@ecs.soton.ac.uk">patina-bounces@ecs.soton.ac.uk</a> <o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>[<a href="mailto:patina-bounces@ecs.soton.ac.uk">mailto:patina-bounces@ecs.soton.ac.uk</a>]<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>On Behalf Of Luc Moreau<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>Sent: 26 September 2012 13:04<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>To: <a href="mailto:patina@ecs.soton.ac.uk">patina@ecs.soton.ac.uk</a><o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>Subject: [Patina] Re: Chester<o:p></o:p></pre>
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<pre>Hi Graeme,<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>How would it work if data is not entered as they proceed?<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>Luc<o:p></o:p></pre>
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<pre>On 26/09/2012 12:39, Earl G.P. wrote:<o:p></o:p></pre>
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<pre>Hi all,<o:p></o:p></pre>
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<pre>A summary of my discussions with L-P: Archaeology. They have a project <o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>starting next week in Chester (sorry - got the place wrong!). It is a <o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>chunk of the Roman town - with a lovely bit of 19th century railway <o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>architecture thrown in. The site is reasonably low key and small <o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>scale. However, their previous evaluation did reveal Roman deposits <o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>and demolished Roman structures. They expect quite a bit of late 19th <o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>century railway truncation on the site.<o:p></o:p></pre>
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<pre>They will be entering data onto ARK after the excavation, rather than <o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>on site. They will have six field staff. Finds processing is more of a <o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>flexible thing. If they have time/ability they will start finds washing on site.<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>However, they generally carry out finds processing after the <o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>fieldwork. If the project was longer term, we would process as we go. <o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>But as we expect to be off site within four to five weeks we would aim <o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>to process the finds post excavation.<o:p></o:p></pre>
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<pre>They are happy for a mobile PoN and a desktop PoN installation. But <o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>with the caveat that if it gets in the way they won't use it J But <o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>they are in favour of on-site tech.<o:p></o:p></pre>
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<pre>Cheers,<o:p></o:p></pre>
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<pre>Dr Enrico Costanza<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>Lecturer, Agents, Interaction, Complexity Group<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>School of Electronics and Computer Science<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>University of Southampton, UK, SO17 1BJ<o:p></o:p></pre>
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