[Patina] Re: white board photo + open source archaeoDBs

[Frankland T.]

Hi,

Graeme would you mind also sending me the photos of the whiteboard you took on your iPhone? For some reason Photosynth makes a very low resolution composite which is why the photo I uploaded on the wiki it is difficult to read. I could quickly stitch the individual photos together in photoshop and it would be nice to have the board in addition to your notes/video.

Cheers,

Tom.

-----Original Message-----
From: patina-bounces at ecs.soton.ac.uk [mailto:patina-bounces at ecs.soton.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Earl G.P.
Sent: 21 February 2012 10:24
To: Southampton-specific mailing list for PATINA project
Subject: [Patina] Re: white board photo + open source archaeoDBs

Hi Enrico

Sorry I meant to write up notes... I will give a 5 min summary of what they mean today. Maybe someone can video me do we can put that on the wiki?

We know the ARK people will and they are good friends BUT it claims quite a lot but has some issues. It does not use a wiki approach at present. When you change something it goes away forever. In terms of grouping etc I have never seen that in action. In any case PoN provides the structure to provenance that they definitely do not. This comes back to the point I keep making - PoN can function superbly as a provenance engine to extant note taking and structured documentation tool.

Looking forward to 1pm! I have to leave at 2:50 to pick up Oscar.

G


On 20 Feb 2012, at 19:48, "Enrico Costanza" <ec at ecs.soton.ac.uk<mailto:ec at ecs.soton.ac.uk>> wrote:

Hello.

Thank you Tom for posting this photo on the wiki:
http://wiki.patina.ecs.soton.ac.uk/images/2/2a/Whiteboard.jpg

However, it's not very easy for me to read?
Did anyone take another photo, or notes, by any chance?


In one of our recent meetings Graeme pointed us to:
http://ark.lparchaeology.com/about/overview
I have also found:
http://www.iadb.org.uk/

My first impression was that the main difference between these and PoN was provenance: i.e. the ability to attach notes to items and versioning everything. This seems to be the case for IADB, however I found the following about ARK:
from http://ark.lparchaeology.com/about/hypertext

Eternal Revision
Much like in wiki technology today there would be no deletions of data, just eternal revisions. These revisions ought to be transparent so that earlier edits and versions are available to the reader for simultaneous side by side comparison.
and
from http://ark.lparchaeology.com/about/reflexivity

Reflexive Method
Reflexivity is also something that ARK can easily address. The instantaneous nature of ARK and its web-based front-end means that people working on the project can interact with each other's production on an almost immediate basis. ARK also makes it possible for individuals to group and interpret data in their own way, to present conflicting and differing interpretations of the same data.

Making multiple narratives possible
A result set in ARK can also saved out as a fixed snapshot or 'group'. Groups then become ARK 'items' themselves, and can have other fragments or interpretations attached to them. This is essential as the project begins to build narrative, as stratigraphic groups or other groups can be commented on as a unit.
Is this bad news<http://www.phdcomics.com/comics/archive.php?comicid=789>?

Graeme & Angeliki, do you have any first-hand experience with ARK?
Is it really so similar to PoN?

Thank you,
Enrico

--
Dr Enrico Costanza
Lecturer, Agents, Interaction, Complexity Group School of Electronics and Computer Science University of Southampton, UK, SO17 1BJ

http://users.ecs.soton.ac.uk/ec
http://d-touch.org


_______________________________________________
Patina mailing list
Patina at ecs.soton.ac.uk<mailto:Patina at ecs.soton.ac.uk>
http://mailman.ecs.soton.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/patina

_______________________________________________
Patina mailing list
Patina at ecs.soton.ac.uk
http://mailman.ecs.soton.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/patina