<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On 2016-11-05, at 16:29, Tim Chown <<a href="mailto:tjc@ecs.soton.ac.uk" class="">tjc@ecs.soton.ac.uk</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On 5 Nov 2016, at 13:36, Vladimiro Sassone <<a href="mailto:vsassone@soton.ac.uk" class="">vsassone@soton.ac.uk</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div class="">On 3 Nov 2016, at 12:32, Nicholas Gibbins <<a href="mailto:nmg@ecs.soton.ac.uk" class="">nmg@ecs.soton.ac.uk</a>> wrote:<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">Regardless, the new MBP might be the impetus I need to start seriously<br class="">looking at hackintoshes; some time ago, I came to the conclusion that<br class="">what I liked was the OS, and not necessarily the hardware.<br class=""></blockquote><br class="">well, i am not sure, it’s all deja-vu, like when the iPad was just a glorified iPhone that nobody may ever want/need. I am not a developer, really, ask agree on the software, but in terms of hardware am jolly happy with the retina, an unrivalled trackpad (jeez, to look at a Thinkpad sends shivers down my spine), touchId, fast keyboard, portability etc. I would have loved a touchscreen (but after all, I hate fingerprints on my screen, so perhaps not…), but am inclined to give the touchBar a go before writing it off. TouchId alone might be worth the pain (and no, i don’t think i am really concerned about the demise of <esc>).<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class=""><br class="">In summary, although I mourn the loss of magsafe —but why oh why!— I am not sure that there is out there a laptop right now that overall I’d like better than the MBP. Different is the question for the MacBook. I’ve bought one, which i find almost entirely unusable because of the single port: two would have been fine, even just one plus a (magsafe) power inlet would work… but only one makes things unreasonably hard for no specific gain… Yes, i can buy an usb-c/ethernet adapter or a usb-c/DP one, but what’s the point if I can’t at the same power the laptop?<br class=""></div></div></blockquote></div><br class="" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;"><div class="" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;">The Macbook’s lack of interfaces is baffling. </div><div class="" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;"><br class=""></div><div class="" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;">At least for USB-C “magsafe" there is <a href="https://griffintechnology.com/us/breaksafe-magnetic-usb-c-power-cable" class="">https://griffintechnology.com/us/breaksafe-magnetic-usb-c-power-cable</a> or soon <a href="http://www.computerworld.com/article/3138865/computer-hardware/start-up-creates-usb-c-to-magsafe-adapter-for-new-macbook-and-other-devices.html" class="">http://www.computerworld.com/article/3138865/computer-hardware/start-up-creates-usb-c-to-magsafe-adapter-for-new-macbook-and-other-devices.html</a>. </div><div class="" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;"><br class=""></div><div class="" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;">But the new MBP is a step backwards in so many ways.</div><div class="" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;"><br class=""></div><div class="" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;">This is just so spot on <a href="https://blog.pinboard.in/2016/10/benjamin_button_reviews_the_new_macbook_pro/" class="">https://blog.pinboard.in/2016/10/benjamin_button_reviews_the_new_macbook_pro/</a>.</div></div></blockquote><br class=""></div><div>Agree on the magsafe thing, that is a real loss.</div><div><br class=""></div><div>I worry that the USB-C add-ons will actually make it worse, unless you’re in the habit of removing the whole cable, magnetic snap off and all, you’re going to end up with something permanently sticking out of your machine.</div><div><br class=""></div><div>- Steve</div><br class=""></body></html>