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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 07/11/2016 11:38, Steve Harris
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<div class="">On 2016-11-05, at 16:29, Tim Chown <<a
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<div class="">On 5 Nov 2016, at 13:36, Vladimiro Sassone
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<div class="">On 3 Nov 2016, at 12:32, Nicholas
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<blockquote type="cite" class="">Regardless, the new
MBP might be the impetus I need to start seriously<br
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looking at hackintoshes; some time ago, I came to
the conclusion that<br class="">
what I liked was the OS, and not necessarily the
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well, i am not sure, it’s all deja-vu, like when the
iPad was just a glorified iPhone that nobody may
ever want/need. I am not a developer, really, ask
agree on the software, but in terms of hardware am
jolly happy with the retina, an unrivalled trackpad
(jeez, to look at a Thinkpad sends shivers down my
spine), touchId, fast keyboard, portability etc. I
would have loved a touchscreen (but after all, I
hate fingerprints on my screen, so perhaps not…),
but am inclined to give the touchBar a go before
writing it off. TouchId alone might be worth the
pain (and no, i don’t think i am really concerned
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In summary, although I mourn the loss of magsafe
—but why oh why!— I am not sure that there is out
there a laptop right now that overall I’d like
better than the MBP. Different is the question for
the MacBook. I’ve bought one, which i find almost
entirely unusable because of the single port: two
would have been fine, even just one plus a (magsafe)
power inlet would work… but only one makes things
unreasonably hard for no specific gain… Yes, i can
buy an usb-c/ethernet adapter or a usb-c/DP one, but
what’s the point if I can’t at the same power the
laptop?<br class="">
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of interfaces is baffling. </div>
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0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;">At least for USB-C
“magsafe" there is <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://griffintechnology.com/us/breaksafe-magnetic-usb-c-power-cable"
class="">https://griffintechnology.com/us/breaksafe-magnetic-usb-c-power-cable</a> or
soon <a moz-do-not-send="true"
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step backwards in so many ways.</div>
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0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;">This is just so spot
on <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://blog.pinboard.in/2016/10/benjamin_button_reviews_the_new_macbook_pro/"
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<div>Agree on the magsafe thing, that is a real loss.</div>
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<div>I worry that the USB-C add-ons will actually make it worse,
unless you’re in the habit of removing the whole cable, magnetic
snap off and all, you’re going to end up with something
permanently sticking out of your machine.</div>
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I use my MacBook every day. I've tripped over the cable at least 3
times now. Each time it has just pulled the connector out of the
socket, and jerked the laptop across (or off) the table. There are
no signs of damage to the cable, plug, socket nor the rest of the
laptop.<br>
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Yes, I wish USB-C had the advantage of Magsafe too. But I haven't
damaged it yet.<br>
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But Apple ditching technology to encourage everyone to move on is
hardly a new thing. Benjamin Button could have written that review
when Apple stopped including floppy disk drives, to name one time of
many.<br>
Personally, I think being able to put power, data and video in the
same reversible connector is a huge step forwards.<br>
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My 2p worth...<br>
<pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">Jules
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