[OSX-Users] Re: Time wasting

[m.c. schraefel]

Yes
well done.
but isn’t it interesting how hard it is to search for people who worked on these projects when looking at the projects?

and sadly in that video from the wwdc below you don’t see jobs introduce him - which was just lovely in this kind of aw and respect for AT - and Tevanian's technical talk about this MASSIVE transition AND keeping the old os working in emulation - it was amazing
the architectural work to make this transition happen..when you think about it - is pretty awesome in itself
don’t you think?

it’s really hard perhaps to fathom that mac was nowhere really at that time.
when i was a couple years later post doc'ing at AT&T shannon lab (when google was something you played with cuz your supervisor’s buddies at standford wrote it and you wanted a laugh on search results - do you feel lucky was a kind of joke) - apple stock was super cheap - people who actually had stock - but somehow loved apple - were selling it off cuz it was “useless” 
- to where now it is the most valued brand on the planet. wow. 

mc


> On 26 Oct 2015, at 18:34, Chris Andrews <w at lfie.org> wrote:
> 
> Oh, Avie Tevanian! 
> 
> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avie_Tevanian <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avie_Tevanian>
> On Mon, 26 Oct 2015 at 22:32 m.c. schraefel <mc at ecs.soton.ac.uk <mailto:mc at ecs.soton.ac.uk>> wrote:
> ON the bonus round -  it’s a name like Avi… or maybe i have it entirely wrong but not anglo for sure. 
> came over from next os with Jobs to lead the unix transition.
> 
>> On 26 Oct 2015, at 18:08, Chris Andrews <w at lfie.org <mailto:w at lfie.org>> wrote:
>> 
>> For the bonus round, would that be Bertrand Serlet?
>> 
>> I got 35/36 because once you've got some basic idea what it is the alternative answer is so out there that it's easy to get. The one I fell down on was distinguishing between a PowerBook 100 and a PowerBook 540c - working out whether something with a FireWire port was an iPod or a fax modem was a little easier...
>> 
>> Oh, and I got the Apple III because they missed a badge. Guess there should have been another Jobs! (Or Woz...)
>> 
>> Chris
>> 
>> On Mon, 26 Oct 2015 at 21:55 m.c. schraefel <mc at ecs.soton.ac.uk <mailto:mc at ecs.soton.ac.uk>> wrote:
>> well that was shockingly easy - esp. with the labels.
>> thanks Les
>> another way to cut this set:
>> -which (hideous) designs came from the period of John Scully/GillAmelio?
>> - what year did jobs come back to apple as iCEO
>> - what product line did he cut - almost as soon as he got back in the door (only one example of that line shows up in these designs)
>> — oh bonus round: who did Jobs bring over from next to do the OSX unix kernel work for OSX? ( i ask because i’ve actually forgotten his name, and in looking at queries like “who lead the dev team for rhapsody at apple - nothing)
>> 
>> but heh surprising to recall: i was at the WWDC when all this transition happened - when gil amelio introduced Steve Jobs was coming back to Apple as “an advisor” with the purchase of next and the rhapsody thing.
>> and then Jobs was introduced end of the week to “chat” about OpenStep and the blue and yellow box - and a vision for computing more generally.
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GnO7D5UaDig <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GnO7D5UaDig>
>> 
>> so wow, as i consider it about time, and how we never get moments back so spend the now wisely
>>  i have seen steve jobs in the real, talked with guy kawasaki about being an evangelist and what that means for something you believe it, and first encountered whiteboard walls in Building 5 of Apple Campus as a grad student where engineers and marketing actually shared lab space
>> - and at the end of the day, that means…well i’m not sure what that means, really.
>> The use of space is the biggest take away from the time physically at apple; seeing jobs talk about why unix for Mac - awesome clarity, passion and a strong path - and that day a seeming humility within the certainty  - and talking cloud computing about 15 years ahead of it becoming the norm (if we’re there now).) kinda amazing in retrospect; it was pretty stunning at the time, too.
>> 
>> we can be heroes
>> 
>> mc
>> @MIT - where at kendal square just down from the big weird and wonderful CSAIL building by Frank Gehry , they have a stone in the pavement for steve jobs - among other tech icons including edison - and on the anniversary of his death folks really do leave lit candles and flowers on it. how bout that eh?
>> 
>> 
>> > On 26 Oct 2015, at 16:40, Leslie Carr <lac at ecs.soton.ac.uk <mailto:lac at ecs.soton.ac.uk>> wrote:
>> >
>> > Can you identify these pieces of retro Apple tech? I'm an Apple Nerd extraordinaire - 32/36
>> >
>> > http://www.alphr.com/apple/1001832/can-you-name-these-35-pieces-of-retro-apple-tech <http://www.alphr.com/apple/1001832/can-you-name-these-35-pieces-of-retro-apple-tech>
>> >
>> > Go on - how much apple tech do you recognise?
>> >
>> > Prof Leslie Carr
>> > Web Science institute
>> > #⃣ webscience #⃣ openaccess
>> >
>> 
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