[OSX-Users] Re: New MacBook Pros and Thunderbolt update 1.2

[David Millard]

I can honestly say I haven't used ethernet for years now, although I also have a digital media setup at home and shift around multi-gig files - just patient I guess :-) 

As for why I'm after this machine? My current slab (and that is the right word) is a 2009 17" MBP. It's my only machine, and while I love that monster display it makes just about everything else seem like a tiddler (you get used to the size btw, and in a good bag it's surprisingly little hassle to travel with it - it also doubles as a handy lap tray :-)

I had decided to trade down to 15" and have been waiting months for them to bring this new shape out. I'd have settled for a 15" Air, but this will do! Price is a bit eye-watering, but I guess that's the SSD (and perhaps a bit of fanboy premium?)

D

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On 13 Jun 2012, at 22:56, Hugh Glaser <hg at ecs.soton.ac.uk> wrote:

> You use little files - how quaint :-)
> I quite often want to move multi-GB files around (a couple of hours TV programme on a good channel can be upwards of 5GB).
> Do the math (!) on how long that takes over maxed-out wifi, and compare it with gigabit - roughly an order of magnitude.
> With my new air I hadn't worked out there would be no gigabit (doh!)
> I was so pissed off I just bought a USB-ethernet adaptor.
> 
> 
> On 13 Jun 2012, at 22:31, David Millard wrote:
> 
>> You still use ethernet? How quaint!
>> 
>> Surely the real burning issue is whether the retina pro will be on the isolutions list - try as I might I just can't see this info on the apple website or anywhere in the frenzied media coverage ;-)
>> 
>> D
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On 13 Jun 2012, at 21:36, Steve Harris <swh at me.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> On 13 Jun 2012, at 19:21, m.c. schraefel wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> On 13 Jun 2012, at 10:34, Steve Harris wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Or use daisy-chaining on the display - plug the gig ethernet adaptor into the display, and use the displays TB port to connect.
>>>> 
>>>> Steve, this is great - and thanks for coming back in
>>>> 
>>>> alas (or not)  the TB displays already have giga ethernet. it's a really expensive hub with display attached. so the one display where it would work it seems, it's currently redundant.
>>> 
>>> Ah, I didn't know that. Useful - almost worth the upgrade to the new display, but I don't need two of the things!
>>> 
>>>>> Doesn't work if your display is DisplayPort though (like mine). Also the fact that the power and TB ports are on opposite side of the Air is a right pain when using them with the old DisplayPort monitors.
>>>> 
>>>> truly.
>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 100 meg ethernet over USB is probably fast enough anyway, unless you're attaching to an iSCSI device or something.
>>>> 
>>>> good to know - i've always been a bit curious if those speeds actually move through the usb/ethernet adaptor. 
>>>> and where does wireless max out usually - i've seen some arguments that on a local network, wireless will be faster than the usb ethernet. not been my experience but doesn't mean it's not possible. 
>>> 
>>> I'm sure it could happen in some circumstances, but I bet not very often.
>>> 
>>>> i'm looking forward to experimenting for the heck of it anyway with this dongle.
>>>> 
>>>> it's amazing to look at this for 25 quid when the hubs on the horizon by belkin are going to be 300USD 
>>>> http://www.theverge.com/2012/1/9/2690454/belkins-thunderbolt-express-dock-will-finally-go-on-sale-this-summer
>>> 
>>> Well, that dock does an awful lot more than just gig ethernet. Non-thunderbolt docks are expensive too.
>>> 
>>> - Steve
>>> 
>>>>> On 2012-06-13, at 18:27, m.c. schraefel wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Right 
>>>>>> The computer Has two ports but the dongle does not so those of us with airs have to make that choice
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Sigh
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Sent from my iSomething
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 2012-06-13, at 10:06 AM, Steve Harris <swh at me.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> It has two TB ports.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 2012-06-13, at 17:44, m.c. schraefel wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> ah
>>>>>>>> so one has a choice: high speed internet OR a display?
>>>>>>>> dang.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On 13 Jun 2012, at 08:27, Chris Andrews wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On 13 June 2012 16:09, m.c. schraefel <mc at ecs.soton.ac.uk> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On 13 Jun 2012, at 06:49, Chris Andrews wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Gorgeous screens, by all accounts, and There's a TB gig ethernet adaptor out now. Allegedly there's FW800 coming but it's not on sale at the moment.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> where?? link?
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> http://store.apple.com/uk/product/MD463
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
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