[OSX-Users] Re: New MacBook Pros and Thunderbolt update 1.2

[m.c. schraefel]

Hugh,
likewise - at home for moving files around - or at work - it's great to have the usb/ethernet adaptor.

steve - i have the adaptor on a usb port on the back of the dvi display for jacking in there. It also means that guests who use the display in my office can get wired internet without having to register a hardware mac address see the ethernet id is on the dongle (guess how long it took me to figure out that was why my air wasn't "working" on the network - hadn't realized i'd swapped dongles with an unregistered one)

likewise keep the usb adaptor in the travel kit. 

now might just get the TB dongle for the more data intense scenarios on the gbit hub just to see how much time it saves. 

here's a tangential ethernet story:
was on the MIT network awhile ago with a macbook pro, had it plugged into the ethernet - it wasn't working. plugged into a 100baseT router and it was fine. The wall was gigabit, the mac was actually broken for handling that speed; needed the hub to get the slower speed; trip to the apple store for a board replacement. Would not have found that out without access to that speed of line. Kinda funky.

m.c.



On 13 Jun 2012, at 14:56, Hugh Glaser wrote:

> You use little files - how quaint :-)
> I quite often want to move multi-GB files around (a couple of hours TV programme on a good channel can be upwards of 5GB).
> Do the math (!) on how long that takes over maxed-out wifi, and compare it with gigabit - roughly an order of magnitude.
> With my new air I hadn't worked out there would be no gigabit (doh!)
> I was so pissed off I just bought a USB-ethernet adaptor.
> 
> 
> On 13 Jun 2012, at 22:31, David Millard wrote:
> 
>> You still use ethernet? How quaint!
>> 
>> Surely the real burning issue is whether the retina pro will be on the isolutions list - try as I might I just can't see this info on the apple website or anywhere in the frenzied media coverage ;-)
>> 
>> D
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On 13 Jun 2012, at 21:36, Steve Harris <swh at me.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> On 13 Jun 2012, at 19:21, m.c. schraefel wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> On 13 Jun 2012, at 10:34, Steve Harris wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Or use daisy-chaining on the display - plug the gig ethernet adaptor into the display, and use the displays TB port to connect.
>>>> 
>>>> Steve, this is great - and thanks for coming back in
>>>> 
>>>> alas (or not)  the TB displays already have giga ethernet. it's a really expensive hub with display attached. so the one display where it would work it seems, it's currently redundant.
>>> 
>>> Ah, I didn't know that. Useful - almost worth the upgrade to the new display, but I don't need two of the things!
>>> 
>>>>> Doesn't work if your display is DisplayPort though (like mine). Also the fact that the power and TB ports are on opposite side of the Air is a right pain when using them with the old DisplayPort monitors.
>>>> 
>>>> truly.
>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 100 meg ethernet over USB is probably fast enough anyway, unless you're attaching to an iSCSI device or something.
>>>> 
>>>> good to know - i've always been a bit curious if those speeds actually move through the usb/ethernet adaptor. 
>>>> and where does wireless max out usually - i've seen some arguments that on a local network, wireless will be faster than the usb ethernet. not been my experience but doesn't mean it's not possible. 
>>> 
>>> I'm sure it could happen in some circumstances, but I bet not very often.
>>> 
>>>> i'm looking forward to experimenting for the heck of it anyway with this dongle.
>>>> 
>>>> it's amazing to look at this for 25 quid when the hubs on the horizon by belkin are going to be 300USD 
>>>> http://www.theverge.com/2012/1/9/2690454/belkins-thunderbolt-express-dock-will-finally-go-on-sale-this-summer
>>> 
>>> Well, that dock does an awful lot more than just gig ethernet. Non-thunderbolt docks are expensive too.
>>> 
>>> - Steve
>>> 
>>>>> On 2012-06-13, at 18:27, m.c. schraefel wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Right 
>>>>>> The computer Has two ports but the dongle does not so those of us with airs have to make that choice
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Sigh
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Sent from my iSomething
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 2012-06-13, at 10:06 AM, Steve Harris <swh at me.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> It has two TB ports.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 2012-06-13, at 17:44, m.c. schraefel wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> ah
>>>>>>>> so one has a choice: high speed internet OR a display?
>>>>>>>> dang.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On 13 Jun 2012, at 08:27, Chris Andrews wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On 13 June 2012 16:09, m.c. schraefel <mc at ecs.soton.ac.uk> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On 13 Jun 2012, at 06:49, Chris Andrews wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Gorgeous screens, by all accounts, and There's a TB gig ethernet adaptor out now. Allegedly there's FW800 coming but it's not on sale at the moment.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> where?? link?
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> http://store.apple.com/uk/product/MD463
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
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