[OSX-Users] Re: Apple purging GPL?

[Leslie Carr]

I'm not titillated by the license wars, but i thought it worth going back to the original lists and looking at the full range of source packages that have been used in OS X historically.

Here's how many packages have been used in each major release:
10.1  167
10.2  210
10.3  263
10.4  348
10.5  375
10.6  329
10.7  289
10.8  222

Why is it decreasing over the last few releases? Which specific packages have gone? Are they obsolete? Or is Apple fiendishly replacing them with horrible proprietary code (bwah ha ha ha ha)?

Here's the list of packages that have disappeared from Mountain Lion. How do you read it?
ChatServer
CyrusIMAP
DSTools
DirectoryService
Libm
OpenDirectory
SpamAssassin
WebmailServer
X11apps
X11fonts
X11libs
X11misc
X11proto
X11server
amavisd
apache_mod_bonjour
apache_mod_bw
apache_mod_encoding2
apache_mod_jk
apache_mod_python
bootstrap_cmds
clamav
developer_cmds
dovecot
enscript
fetchmail
flex
grep
headerdoc
libmd
libsecurity_apple_csp
libsecurity_apple_cspdl
libsecurity_apple_file_dl
libsecurity_apple_x509_cl
libsecurity_apple_x509_tp
libsecurity_asn1
libsecurity_authorization
libsecurity_cdsa_client
libsecurity_cdsa_plugin
libsecurity_cdsa_utilities
libsecurity_cdsa_utils
libsecurity_checkpw
libsecurity_cms
libsecurity_codesigning
libsecurity_cssm
libsecurity_dotmacdl
libsecurity_filedb
libsecurity_filevault
libsecurity_keychain
libsecurity_ldap_dl
libsecurity_manifest
libsecurity_mds
libsecurity_ocspd
libsecurity_pkcs12
libsecurity_sd_cspdl
libsecurity_smime
libsecurity_ssl
libsecurity_utilities
libsecurityd
mailman
nasm
neon
netinfo
notify
subversion
tcp_wrappers
texi2html
xelf


--
Les


On 30 Aug 2012, at 12:14, Hugh Glaser <hg at ecs.soton.ac.uk>
 wrote:

> Really nice, sensible discussion - Chris noting that he is not a typical user, and Steve thinking about what's best for dads, etc..
> And about such a contentious subject.
> 
> it would be nice if the other lists I see could manage that.
> 
> On 30 Aug 2012, at 10:06, Steve Harris <swh at me.com>
> wrote:
> 
>> On 2012-08-30, at 09:00, Chris Andrews wrote:
>>> 
>>> On 30 Aug 2012, at 08:13, Luke Teacy <wtlt at ecs.soton.ac.uk> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Only danger is, what else does it allow them to do? As much as I love my iOS devices, I'm in no hurray to see it running on my Mac - at least not in a way that prevents me bringing up a bash shell and doing most of the things I can do on Linux.
>>> 
>>> Starting from nothing and making a closed platform is a lot easier than taking an open platform and making it closed. Jailing OS X a la iOS is going to be almost impossible without some kind of get-out for developers, power users and people who like emacs.
>> 
>> I think the most likely outcome would be that by default it's locked down à la iOS, but if you click the "power user" button you can run arbitrary code.
>> 
>> It kind of rubs me up the wrong way, but it would probably be for the best - people like my Dad might finally stop installing random crap software they find lying about and binning PCs every year because they're crammed with malware.
>> 
>> - Steve
> 
>