<div dir="ltr"><div><br></div>I believe the ones who "really live and breathe these issues on a daily basis" are actually the researchers and public and policy makers who can't get access to research they need to improve society.<div><br></div><div>They, and many others who share their views (myself included), don't participate in the OSI discussions because they just plain start from the wrong place. The "needs" of publishers shouldn't matter any more than the "needs" of travel agents mattered, I believe. </div><div><br></div><div>Some of us are listed in the OSI website because we dipped our toe in before realizing that it wasn't a group where our time was best spent.</div><div><br></div><div>Heather</div><div><br clear="all"><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><span><font size="1"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="background-color:transparent;font-family:Arial;white-space:pre-wrap"><font color="#999999">---</font></span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="background-color:transparent;font-family:Arial;white-space:pre-wrap"><font color="#999999">Heather Piwowar, cofounder</font></span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><a href="https://ourresearch.org/" target="_blank"><span style="font-family:Arial;color:rgb(17,85,204);background-color:transparent;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">Our Research</span></a><span style="font-family:Arial;color:rgb(136,136,136);background-color:transparent;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">: We build tools to make scholarly research more open, connected, and reusable—for everyone.</span></p><span style="font-family:Arial;color:rgb(136,136,136);background-color:transparent;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">follow at </span><a href="https://twitter.com/researchremix" target="_blank"><span style="font-family:Arial;color:rgb(17,85,204);background-color:transparent;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">@researchremix</span></a><span style="font-family:Arial;color:rgb(136,136,136);background-color:transparent;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">, </span><a href="https://twitter.com/our_research" target="_blank"><span style="font-family:Arial;color:rgb(17,85,204);background-color:transparent;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">@our_research</span></a><span style="font-family:Arial;color:rgb(136,136,136);background-color:transparent;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">, and @</span><a href="https://twitter.com/unpaywall" target="_blank"><span style="font-family:Arial;color:rgb(17,85,204);background-color:transparent;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">unpaywall</span></a></font></span><br></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Apr 21, 2020 at 10:09 AM Glenn Hampson <<a href="mailto:ghampson@nationalscience.org">ghampson@nationalscience.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div lang="EN-US"><div class="gmail-m_6959498336173388410WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal">Hi Peter,<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">Sorry. The web list can be hard to parse because it’s alphabetical by first name and not sortable by stakeholder group, plus it hasn’t been updated in a while. But there are actually around a dozen active researchers in OSI (actually more---that’s just their “primary” designation for “accounting” purposes but they can also be a the head of a research organization and an active researcher at the same time), several medical doctors (but again, this isn’t a stakeholder group---these folks may instead be categorized as a journal editor or university official), and representatives from 28 countries in all regions of the world. Most of our current and former OSIers are from the US and Europe, but broadening our international representation is something we’ve been working on for a while. <u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">In the common ground report you’ll find a table showing the most recent count of current participants and their stakeholder “designations” (it’s more detailed than the pie chart from before). This said, as Kathleen has noted, one shouldn’t read into this that x% of the conversation on the OSI list comes from library officials, or y% from commercial publishers. I would say that most of the ongoing deliberation on the list is between scholarly communication analysts and library leaders who really live and breathe these issues on a daily basis.<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><table border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" style="border-collapse:collapse"><tbody><tr style="height:1pt"><td width="261" valign="bottom" style="width:196pt;padding:4pt;height:1pt"><p class="MsoNormal" style="vertical-align:middle"><b><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:Nunito;color:black">Stakeholder group</span></b><span style="font-family:Nunito;color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p></td><td width="85" valign="bottom" style="width:63.9pt;padding:4pt;height:1pt"><p class="MsoNormal" align="center" style="text-align:center;vertical-align:middle"><b><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:Nunito;color:black">Number of participants (Dec 2019)</span></b><span style="font-family:Nunito;color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p></td><td width="64" valign="bottom" style="width:48pt;padding:4pt;height:1pt"><p class="MsoNormal" align="right" style="text-align:right;vertical-align:middle"><b><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:Nunito;color:black">Percent of OSI group</span></b><span style="font-family:Nunito;color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p></td></tr><tr style="height:1pt"><td width="261" valign="bottom" style="width:196pt;background:rgb(64,173,72);padding:4pt;height:1pt"><p class="MsoNormal" style="vertical-align:middle"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:Nunito;color:black">Research universities</span><span style="font-family:Nunito;color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p></td><td width="85" valign="bottom" style="width:63.9pt;background:rgb(64,173,72);padding:4pt;height:1pt"><p class="MsoNormal" align="center" style="text-align:center;vertical-align:middle"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:Nunito;color:black">56</span><span style="font-family:Nunito;color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p></td><td width="64" valign="bottom" style="width:48pt;background:rgb(64,173,72);padding:4pt;height:1pt"><p class="MsoNormal" align="right" style="text-align:right;vertical-align:middle"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:Nunito;color:black">14%</span><span style="font-family:Nunito;color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p></td></tr><tr style="height:1pt"><td width="261" valign="bottom" style="width:196pt;padding:4pt;height:1pt"><p class="MsoNormal" style="vertical-align:middle"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:Nunito;color:black">Libraries & library groups</span><span style="font-family:Nunito;color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p></td><td width="85" valign="bottom" style="width:63.9pt;padding:4pt;height:1pt"><p class="MsoNormal" align="center" style="text-align:center;vertical-align:middle"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:Nunito;color:black">51</span><span style="font-family:Nunito;color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p></td><td width="64" valign="bottom" style="width:48pt;padding:4pt;height:1pt"><p class="MsoNormal" align="right" style="text-align:right;vertical-align:middle"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:Nunito;color:black">13%</span><span style="font-family:Nunito;color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p></td></tr><tr style="height:1pt"><td width="261" valign="bottom" style="width:196pt;background:rgb(64,173,72);padding:4pt;height:1pt"><p class="MsoNormal" style="vertical-align:middle"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:Nunito;color:black">Commercial publishers</span><span style="font-family:Nunito;color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p></td><td width="85" valign="bottom" style="width:63.9pt;background:rgb(64,173,72);padding:4pt;height:1pt"><p class="MsoNormal" align="center" style="text-align:center;vertical-align:middle"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:Nunito;color:black">39</span><span style="font-family:Nunito;color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p></td><td width="64" valign="bottom" style="width:48pt;background:rgb(64,173,72);padding:4pt;height:1pt"><p class="MsoNormal" align="right" style="text-align:right;vertical-align:middle"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:Nunito;color:black">10%</span><span style="font-family:Nunito;color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p></td></tr><tr style="height:1pt"><td width="261" valign="bottom" style="width:196pt;padding:4pt;height:1pt"><p class="MsoNormal" style="vertical-align:middle"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:Nunito;color:black">Open groups and publishers</span><span style="font-family:Nunito;color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p></td><td width="85" valign="bottom" style="width:63.9pt;padding:4pt;height:1pt"><p class="MsoNormal" align="center" style="text-align:center;vertical-align:middle"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:Nunito;color:black">37</span><span style="font-family:Nunito;color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p></td><td width="64" valign="bottom" style="width:48pt;padding:4pt;height:1pt"><p class="MsoNormal" align="right" style="text-align:right;vertical-align:middle"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:Nunito;color:black">9%</span><span style="font-family:Nunito;color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p></td></tr><tr style="height:1pt"><td width="261" valign="bottom" style="width:196pt;background:rgb(64,173,72);padding:4pt;height:1pt"><p class="MsoNormal" style="vertical-align:middle"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:Nunito;color:black">Industry analysts</span><span style="font-family:Nunito;color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p></td><td width="85" valign="bottom" style="width:63.9pt;background:rgb(64,173,72);padding:4pt;height:1pt"><p class="MsoNormal" align="center" style="text-align:center;vertical-align:middle"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:Nunito;color:black">36</span><span style="font-family:Nunito;color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p></td><td width="64" valign="bottom" style="width:48pt;background:rgb(64,173,72);padding:4pt;height:1pt"><p class="MsoNormal" align="right" style="text-align:right;vertical-align:middle"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:Nunito;color:black">9%</span><span style="font-family:Nunito;color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p></td></tr><tr style="height:1pt"><td width="261" valign="bottom" style="width:196pt;padding:4pt;height:1pt"><p class="MsoNormal" style="vertical-align:middle"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:Nunito;color:black">Government policy groups</span><span style="font-family:Nunito;color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p></td><td width="85" valign="bottom" style="width:63.9pt;padding:4pt;height:1pt"><p class="MsoNormal" align="center" style="text-align:center;vertical-align:middle"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:Nunito;color:black">35</span><span style="font-family:Nunito;color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p></td><td width="64" valign="bottom" style="width:48pt;padding:4pt;height:1pt"><p class="MsoNormal" align="right" style="text-align:right;vertical-align:middle"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:Nunito;color:black">9%</span><span style="font-family:Nunito;color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p></td></tr><tr style="height:1pt"><td width="261" valign="bottom" style="width:196pt;background:rgb(64,173,72);padding:4pt;height:1pt"><p class="MsoNormal" style="vertical-align:middle"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:Nunito;color:black">Non-university research institutions</span><span style="font-family:Nunito;color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p></td><td width="85" valign="bottom" style="width:63.9pt;background:rgb(64,173,72);padding:4pt;height:1pt"><p class="MsoNormal" align="center" style="text-align:center;vertical-align:middle"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:Nunito;color:black">21</span><span style="font-family:Nunito;color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p></td><td width="64" valign="bottom" style="width:48pt;background:rgb(64,173,72);padding:4pt;height:1pt"><p class="MsoNormal" align="right" style="text-align:right;vertical-align:middle"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:Nunito;color:black">5%</span><span style="font-family:Nunito;color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p></td></tr><tr style="height:1pt"><td width="261" valign="bottom" style="width:196pt;padding:4pt;height:1pt"><p class="MsoNormal" style="vertical-align:middle"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:Nunito;color:black">Scholcomm experts</span><span style="font-family:Nunito;color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p></td><td width="85" valign="bottom" style="width:63.9pt;padding:4pt;height:1pt"><p class="MsoNormal" align="center" style="text-align:center;vertical-align:middle"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:Nunito;color:black">20</span><span style="font-family:Nunito;color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p></td><td width="64" valign="bottom" style="width:48pt;padding:4pt;height:1pt"><p class="MsoNormal" align="right" style="text-align:right;vertical-align:middle"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:Nunito;color:black">5%</span><span style="font-family:Nunito;color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p></td></tr><tr style="height:1pt"><td width="261" valign="bottom" style="width:196pt;background:rgb(64,173,72);padding:4pt;height:1pt"><p class="MsoNormal" style="vertical-align:middle"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:Nunito;color:black">Scholarly societies</span><span style="font-family:Nunito;color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p></td><td width="85" valign="bottom" style="width:63.9pt;background:rgb(64,173,72);padding:4pt;height:1pt"><p class="MsoNormal" align="center" style="text-align:center;vertical-align:middle"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:Nunito;color:black">19</span><span style="font-family:Nunito;color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p></td><td width="64" valign="bottom" style="width:48pt;background:rgb(64,173,72);padding:4pt;height:1pt"><p class="MsoNormal" align="right" style="text-align:right;vertical-align:middle"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:Nunito;color:black">5%</span><span style="font-family:Nunito;color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p></td></tr><tr style="height:1pt"><td width="261" valign="bottom" style="width:196pt;padding:4pt;height:1pt"><p class="MsoNormal" style="vertical-align:middle"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:Nunito;color:black">Faculty groups</span><span style="font-family:Nunito;color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p></td><td width="85" valign="bottom" style="width:63.9pt;padding:4pt;height:1pt"><p class="MsoNormal" align="center" style="text-align:center;vertical-align:middle"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:Nunito;color:black">16</span><span style="font-family:Nunito;color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p></td><td width="64" valign="bottom" style="width:48pt;padding:4pt;height:1pt"><p class="MsoNormal" align="right" style="text-align:right;vertical-align:middle"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:Nunito;color:black">4%</span><span style="font-family:Nunito;color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p></td></tr><tr style="height:1pt"><td width="261" valign="bottom" style="width:196pt;background:rgb(64,173,72);padding:4pt;height:1pt"><p class="MsoNormal" style="vertical-align:middle"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:Nunito;color:black">University publishers</span><span style="font-family:Nunito;color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p></td><td width="85" valign="bottom" style="width:63.9pt;background:rgb(64,173,72);padding:4pt;height:1pt"><p class="MsoNormal" align="center" style="text-align:center;vertical-align:middle"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:Nunito;color:black">16</span><span style="font-family:Nunito;color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p></td><td width="64" valign="bottom" style="width:48pt;background:rgb(64,173,72);padding:4pt;height:1pt"><p class="MsoNormal" align="right" style="text-align:right;vertical-align:middle"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:Nunito;color:black">4%</span><span style="font-family:Nunito;color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p></td></tr><tr style="height:1pt"><td width="261" valign="bottom" style="width:196pt;padding:4pt;height:1pt"><p class="MsoNormal" style="vertical-align:middle"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:Nunito;color:black">Funders</span><span style="font-family:Nunito;color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p></td><td width="85" valign="bottom" style="width:63.9pt;padding:4pt;height:1pt"><p class="MsoNormal" align="center" style="text-align:center;vertical-align:middle"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:Nunito;color:black">14</span><span style="font-family:Nunito;color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p></td><td width="64" valign="bottom" style="width:48pt;padding:4pt;height:1pt"><p class="MsoNormal" align="right" style="text-align:right;vertical-align:middle"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:Nunito;color:black">4%</span><span style="font-family:Nunito;color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p></td></tr><tr style="height:1pt"><td width="261" valign="bottom" style="width:196pt;background:rgb(64,173,72);padding:4pt;height:1pt"><p class="MsoNormal" style="vertical-align:middle"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:Nunito;color:black">Active researchers</span><span style="font-family:Nunito;color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p></td><td width="85" valign="bottom" style="width:63.9pt;background:rgb(64,173,72);padding:4pt;height:1pt"><p class="MsoNormal" align="center" style="text-align:center;vertical-align:middle"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:Nunito;color:black">9</span><span style="font-family:Nunito;color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p></td><td width="64" valign="bottom" style="width:48pt;background:rgb(64,173,72);padding:4pt;height:1pt"><p class="MsoNormal" align="right" style="text-align:right;vertical-align:middle"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:Nunito;color:black">2%</span><span style="font-family:Nunito;color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p></td></tr><tr style="height:1pt"><td width="261" valign="bottom" style="width:196pt;padding:4pt;height:1pt"><p class="MsoNormal" style="vertical-align:middle"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:Nunito;color:black">Editors</span><span style="font-family:Nunito;color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p></td><td width="85" valign="bottom" style="width:63.9pt;padding:4pt;height:1pt"><p class="MsoNormal" align="center" style="text-align:center;vertical-align:middle"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:Nunito;color:black">8</span><span style="font-family:Nunito;color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p></td><td width="64" valign="bottom" style="width:48pt;padding:4pt;height:1pt"><p class="MsoNormal" align="right" style="text-align:right;vertical-align:middle"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:Nunito;color:black">2%</span><span style="font-family:Nunito;color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p></td></tr><tr style="height:1pt"><td width="261" valign="bottom" style="width:196pt;background:rgb(64,173,72);padding:4pt;height:1pt"><p class="MsoNormal" style="vertical-align:middle"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:Nunito;color:black">Journalists</span><span style="font-family:Nunito;color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p></td><td width="85" valign="bottom" style="width:63.9pt;background:rgb(64,173,72);padding:4pt;height:1pt"><p class="MsoNormal" align="center" style="text-align:center;vertical-align:middle"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:Nunito;color:black">6</span><span style="font-family:Nunito;color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p></td><td width="64" valign="bottom" style="width:48pt;background:rgb(64,173,72);padding:4pt;height:1pt"><p class="MsoNormal" align="right" style="text-align:right;vertical-align:middle"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:Nunito;color:black">2%</span><span style="font-family:Nunito;color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p></td></tr><tr style="height:1pt"><td width="261" valign="bottom" style="width:196pt;padding:4pt;height:1pt"><p class="MsoNormal" style="vertical-align:middle"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:Nunito;color:black">Tech industry</span><span style="font-family:Nunito;color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p></td><td width="85" valign="bottom" style="width:63.9pt;padding:4pt;height:1pt"><p class="MsoNormal" align="center" style="text-align:center;vertical-align:middle"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:Nunito;color:black">5</span><span style="font-family:Nunito;color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p></td><td width="64" valign="bottom" style="width:48pt;padding:4pt;height:1pt"><p class="MsoNormal" align="right" style="text-align:right;vertical-align:middle"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:Nunito;color:black">1%</span><span style="font-family:Nunito;color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p></td></tr><tr style="height:1pt"><td width="261" valign="bottom" style="width:196pt;background:rgb(64,173,72);padding:4pt;height:1pt"><p class="MsoNormal" style="vertical-align:middle"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:Nunito;color:black">Infrastructure groups</span><span style="font-family:Nunito;color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p></td><td width="85" valign="bottom" style="width:63.9pt;background:rgb(64,173,72);padding:4pt;height:1pt"><p class="MsoNormal" align="center" style="text-align:center;vertical-align:middle"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:Nunito;color:black">3</span><span style="font-family:Nunito;color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p></td><td width="64" valign="bottom" style="width:48pt;background:rgb(64,173,72);padding:4pt;height:1pt"><p class="MsoNormal" align="right" style="text-align:right;vertical-align:middle"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:Nunito;color:black">1%</span><span style="font-family:Nunito;color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p></td></tr><tr style="height:1pt"><td width="261" valign="bottom" style="width:196pt;padding:4pt;height:1pt"><p class="MsoNormal" style="vertical-align:middle"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:Nunito;color:black">Other universities</span><span style="font-family:Nunito;color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p></td><td width="85" valign="bottom" style="width:63.9pt;padding:4pt;height:1pt"><p class="MsoNormal" align="center" style="text-align:center;vertical-align:middle"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:Nunito;color:black">2</span><span style="font-family:Nunito;color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p></td><td width="64" valign="bottom" style="width:48pt;padding:4pt;height:1pt"><p class="MsoNormal" align="right" style="text-align:right;vertical-align:middle"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:Nunito;color:black">1%</span><span style="font-family:Nunito;color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p></td></tr><tr style="height:1pt"><td width="261" valign="bottom" style="width:196pt;background:rgb(64,173,72);padding:4pt;height:1pt"><p class="MsoNormal" style="vertical-align:middle"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:Nunito;color:black">Elected officials</span><span style="font-family:Nunito;color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p></td><td width="85" valign="bottom" style="width:63.9pt;background:rgb(64,173,72);padding:4pt;height:1pt"><p class="MsoNormal" align="center" style="text-align:center;vertical-align:middle"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:Nunito;color:black">1</span><span style="font-family:Nunito;color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p></td><td width="64" valign="bottom" style="width:48pt;background:rgb(64,173,72);padding:4pt;height:1pt"><p class="MsoNormal" align="right" style="text-align:right;vertical-align:middle"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:Nunito;color:black">0%</span><span style="font-family:Nunito;color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p></td></tr><tr style="height:1pt"><td width="261" valign="bottom" style="width:196pt;padding:4pt;height:1pt"><p class="MsoNormal" style="vertical-align:middle"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:Nunito;color:black">TOTAL</span><span style="font-family:Nunito;color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p></td><td width="85" valign="bottom" style="width:63.9pt;padding:4pt;height:1pt"><p class="MsoNormal" align="center" style="text-align:center;vertical-align:middle"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:Nunito;color:black">394</span><span style="font-family:Nunito;color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p></td><td width="64" valign="bottom" style="width:48pt;padding:4pt;height:1pt"><p class="MsoNormal" align="right" style="text-align:right;vertical-align:middle"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:Nunito;color:black">100%</span><span style="font-family:Nunito;color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p></td></tr></tbody></table><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">I hope this helps.<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">Best regards,<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">Glenn<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:9pt;color:rgb(38,38,38)">Glenn Hampson</span></b><br><b><span style="font-size:9pt;color:rgb(38,38,38)">Executive Director</span></b><br><b><span style="font-size:9pt"><a href="http://sci.institute" target="_blank"><span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">Science Communication Institute (SCI)</span></a></span></b><br><b><span style="font-size:9pt;color:rgb(38,38,38)">Program Director<br></span></b><b><span style="font-size:9pt"><a href="http://osiglobal.org" target="_blank"><span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">Open Scholarship Initiative (OSI)</span></a><u></u><u></u></span></b></p><p class="MsoNormal"><a href="http://osiglobal.org" target="_blank"><span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none"><img border="0" width="116" height="42" style="width: 1.2083in; height: 0.4375in;" id="gmail-m_6959498336173388410Picture_x0020_1" src="cid:1719db8f8826917eb1"></span></a><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div style="border-right:none;border-bottom:none;border-left:none;border-top:1pt solid rgb(225,225,225);padding:3pt 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Peter Murray-Rust <<a href="mailto:pm286@cam.ac.uk" target="_blank">pm286@cam.ac.uk</a>> <br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, April 21, 2020 9:23 AM<br><b>To:</b> Glenn Hampson <<a href="mailto:ghampson@nationalscience.org" target="_blank">ghampson@nationalscience.org</a>><br><b>Cc:</b> Global Open Access List (Successor of AmSci) <<a href="mailto:goal@eprints.org" target="_blank">goal@eprints.org</a>>; Samuel Moore <<a href="mailto:samuel.moore15@gmail.com" target="_blank">samuel.moore15@gmail.com</a>>; The Open Scholarship Initiative <<a href="mailto:osi2016-25@googlegroups.com" target="_blank">osi2016-25@googlegroups.com</a>>; scholcomm <<a href="mailto:scholcomm@lists.ala.org" target="_blank">scholcomm@lists.ala.org</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [GOAL] [SCHOLCOMM] Fostering Bibliodiversity in Scholarly Communications: A Call for Action<u></u><u></u></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Thanks for outlining this. There are 300-400 people on the OSI list. I could not find:<br>* any researchers<br>* any doctors/medics<br>* anyone from the Global South<br><br>But there are 9 directors from Elsevier.<br>And everyone else is director of this, chief of that, CEO of the other.<br><br>In the early days of OA in UK The <a href="https://www.gov.uk/government/news/government-to-open-up-publicly-funded-research" target="_blank">https://www.gov.uk/government/news/government-to-open-up-publicly-funded-research</a> Finch Report invited the closed access publishers to help reform publishing. For many of us this was a a complete betrayal of the radicalism required. No wonder there has been to progress. That articles are priced at 3500 Euro. That 80% of the social distancing literature is behind a paywall. <br>This mega committee is a repeat. It cannot reform. It will legitimise the next digital landgrab by the vested interests. <br>There are publishers who create documents (Read Cube) that are specifically designed to make it impossible to re-use knowledge. And no one except a few of us care. <br>m. <u></u><u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12pt">The business model of megapublishers is to make it as hard as possible to read science. And then collect rent. In software the world works towards interoperable solutions ; in "publishing" we have 100+ competing groups who try as hard as possible to make universal knowledge available.<br><br>In the coronavirus pandemic we need global knowledge. The person who does this without publisher control will be sued and possibly jailed. The only person who has liberated science will be jailed if she sets foot in USA.<br><br>This is not fantasy. I have seen graduate students careers destroyed by publishers, with no support from their institutions. I myself have had pushback for text and data mining; I have had no practical support from anyone in the Academic system. Although they got the law changed to allow TDM, no Universities in UK dare do anything the publishers might frown on.<br><br>I've been on and seen initiative after initiative. I've launched one (Panton Principles) - it probably actually made some difference to protect data before the publishers thought of grabbing it. But most inituiatives achieve nothing. And if they are stuffed with publishers all they do is increase the prices they charge for OA (like DEAL, PlanS and the rest). OA is just a way of milking the taxpayer.<br><br>The only thing that will change this is building a better system with a fresh start, almost certainly with young radical people. And Coronavirus might just do that when citizens realize how badly they've been robbed.<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">P.<u></u><u></u></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><p class="MsoNormal">-- <u></u><u></u></p><div><div><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal">"I always retain copyright in my papers, and nothing in any contract I sign with any publisher will override that fact. You should do the same".<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Peter Murray-Rust<br>Reader Emeritus in Molecular Informatics<br>Unilever Centre, Dept. Of Chemistry<br>University of Cambridge<br>CB2 1EW, UK<br>+44-1223-763069<u></u><u></u></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
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