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I also strongly agree with Peter. As for Éric Archambault, it is
simply a pity to see greed trump principles.<br>
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One last note: OA will succeed, despite what Stevan says. Let us
shape OA the right way, and certainly not in the way supported by
Elsevier: in their view, OA is a "charitable" gesture that is
applied only in extreme cases. The reality is that the Great
Conversation of science constantly needs it.<br>
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The right way to go is OA free for authors and for readers, which
means that it must be subsidized. But that is all right because
scientific research is subsidized and scientific communication is an
integral part of scientific research (and it costs only 1% of the
rest of research).<br>
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Jean-Claude Guédon<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Le 31/03/2020 à 08:28, Stevan Harnad a
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I agree with Peter.
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<div class="">Eric has gone over to the devil. <br>
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<div class="">This is a shameful time for token measures. <br>
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<div class="">Covid-19 is a litmus test for disclosing who are
going all out for the public good and who are in it for
themselves. </div>
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<div class="">OA used to be for the sake of scientific and
scholarly research -- an abstraction, and it did not succeed. </div>
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<div class="">Here it’s about survival.</div>
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Harnad</span></div>
<div style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; line-height:
normal; color: rgb(9, 79, 209);" class=""><span style="font-kerning: none; color: #000000" class="">Editor,</span><span style="font-kerning: none; color: #0b37c5" class=""> <a href="https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fanimalstudiesrepository.org%2Fanimsent%2F&data=01%7C01%7C%7Cd547a0da71564c7fb48108d7d56f0886%7C4a5378f929f44d3ebe89669d03ada9d8%7C0&sdata=u4SeHgBD0Upyemmp4Nf0%2Be9a3nOcKNimsGZ3BY2YhGA%3D&reserved=0" originalsrc="http://animalstudiesrepository.org/animsent/" shash="sdLxBuJrtnbTfUDhvP+yXxtO1wmRAYEkRMZZRJLmsJAlq4A0N8WnhxRaqDr8cn/lMQ869vtlXtSQcEKvw2cX3auzcf7NBwYcj1tqHxoxy1WQN0VhtzibX1bkD5JhpDLDvOIElEokA8lVQnnnMnAnzWM3lyd+J3HYm5NaGW46hPs=" class="" moz-do-not-send="true"><span style="-webkit-font-kerning: none; color: rgb(9, 79,
209);" class="">Animal Sentience</span></a></span></div>
<div style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; line-height:
normal; color: rgb(9, 79, 209);" class=""><span style="font-kerning: none; color: #000000" class="">Professor
of Psychology, <a href="https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fcrcsc.uqam.ca%2F&data=01%7C01%7C%7Cd547a0da71564c7fb48108d7d56f0886%7C4a5378f929f44d3ebe89669d03ada9d8%7C0&sdata=cXNp0TpmsXPsLTCN5AYm8hfmpZmgij7X2Up3%2FNnGjvo%3D&reserved=0" originalsrc="http://crcsc.uqam.ca/" shash="hJTDhK+sdcAQyapyJX0Gs5cuBQ2p5B8XmgxuJL9sY0LPFZl+AB8YTl4emGtPB2n9a8X8Ktz/ONKY9VmcHS3kOR3vabA555mCfZGfmi3Z0bncfFvsWM0em2C48KVV7p0ef2SUyQ8UOG7Q9hdqYNdQqC48xo1kxZ0YGfft4SnUdpU=" class="" moz-do-not-send="true"><span style="-webkit-font-kerning: none; color: rgb(9, 79,
209);" class="">Université du Québec à Montréal</span></a></span></div>
<div style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; line-height:
normal;" class=""><span style="font-kerning: none" class="">Adjunct
Professor of Cognitive Science, <a href="https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.mcgill.ca%2Fpsychology%2Fabout%2Ffaculty-0%2Faffiliate-and-adjunct&data=01%7C01%7C%7Cd547a0da71564c7fb48108d7d56f0886%7C4a5378f929f44d3ebe89669d03ada9d8%7C0&sdata=FirEAYdQS9zIJvZwZOu3TyqInl7b71VCYxIDnoAQ6O4%3D&reserved=0" originalsrc="https://www.mcgill.ca/psychology/about/faculty-0/affiliate-and-adjunct" shash="v52aW70QsVu+n/ZML5VjKyK/4MlzKLeMDdnYJvDwqZRutIqdfAdhYx7xTs6RhkgzCiX7QTMNDayqDKQ6GGwFxGIDIzwsXq765ySPsnUUCPsoIfSMpJ9j7pg5GxCZ/yZ0E76yvvk1WKUBYD9kNThJoxEDGqAsBNoLXXu+WruIWss=" class="" moz-do-not-send="true"><span style="-webkit-font-kerning: none; color: rgb(11, 55,
197);" class="">McGill University</span></a></span></div>
<div style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; line-height:
normal;" class=""><span style="font-kerning: none" class="">Emeritus
Professor of Cognitive Science, <a href="http://www.ecs.soton.ac.uk/people/harnad" class="" moz-do-not-send="true"><span style="-webkit-font-kerning:
none; color: rgb(9, 79, 209);" class="">University of
Southampton</span></a></span></div>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Peter,</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Two months ago, that is,
on January 27, we started work at Elsevier
to make available as much as possible of the
scholarly literature on coronavirus research
easily discoverable and freely accessible.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">At 1science, we created
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<div class="">Why does Elsevier not simply open all
its content and let the scientific , medical and
citizen community decide what they want? Elsevier
can't guess what we want.<br class="">
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The Royal Society has done this. Elsevier can afford
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please let us know, we have been on it for
two months and we continue to evaluate
options to help the research community.</p>
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<div class="">My colleague, a software
developer, working for free on openVirus software,
is spending most of his time working making masks in
Cambridge Makespace to ship to Addenbrooke's
hospital. When he goes to the literature to find
literature on masks, their efficacy and use and
construction he finds paywall after paywall after
paywall after paywall .... Some are 1-page notes
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Do not tell us what we want. let us choose freely.<br class="">
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Volunteer fighting for free scientific knowledge in
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