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    <font face="Times New Roman">The first point, of course, is that if
      the &quot;tenured saint&quot; is not available, the greedy devil is not the
      only behavioural alternative.<br>
      <br>
      Neither is sainthood, so to speak, dependent upon tenure. Tenure
      was invented to protect free expression. It might be useful to
      remind everyone that many people looking for tenure, do so
      precisely for this reason, while knowing that, given their level
      of education and (presumably) competence, they could probably
      trade more money for less freedom.<br>
      <br>
      And this is not theory. Creating an Elsevier Hub for research on
      the coronavirus is nothing more than a fig leaf for that company.
      Research is not particularly helped by opening up only what
      someone thinks is good for a particular field of research, while
      preserving the revenue stream in other areas of knowledge. Doing
      so is assuming that fields of knowledge do not overlap to some
      extent, and that one already knows the broad contours of the
      solutions, however unexpected they may be. Both claims are broadly
      incomplete, at best. <br>
      <br>
      It would be amusing to know whether, in the Elsevier boardrooms,
      issues arose such as : &quot;if we open access too much, we are going
      to lose significant revenue&quot;, or &quot;there is threshold beyond which
      we lose both control and revenue&quot;, etc.<br>
      <br>
      Jean-Claude Guédon<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2020-03-31 12:35 p.m., Éric
      Archambault wrote:<br>
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        Sorry if my life's circumstances led me to become a greedy devil
        instead of a tenured saint.</div>
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        That said, I don't think it's right to assume that we are
        working out of self-interest to build the Coronavirus Research
        Hub - as early as January individuals at Elsevier and people
        here in my team sought to do our bit to make information
        discoverable. These people are like me, we live outside a
        Manichean world and as we decided to do our part with the tools
        at our disposal even if that didn't solve all the issues in the
        world we live in. There are people in these organizations and
        insulting us at the personal level doesn't help creating the
        sense of community we all need to fight this bug. There is time
        for theory, other for actions.</div>
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        <div id="divRplyFwdMsg" dir="ltr"><font style="font-size:11pt" face="Calibri, sans-serif" color="#000000"><b>From:</b>
            <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:goal-bounces@eprints.org">goal-bounces@eprints.org</a> <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:goal-bounces@eprints.org">&lt;goal-bounces@eprints.org&gt;</a> on
            behalf of Jean-Claude Guédon
            <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:jean.claude.guedon@umontreal.ca">&lt;jean.claude.guedon@umontreal.ca&gt;</a><br>
            <b>Sent:</b> March 31, 2020 11:17 AM<br>
            <b>To:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:goal@eprints.org">goal@eprints.org</a> <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:goal@eprints.org">&lt;goal@eprints.org&gt;</a><br>
            <b>Subject:</b> Re: [GOAL] COVID-19 and access to knowledge</font>
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        <div>I also strongly agree with Peter. As for Éric Archambault,
          it is simply a pity to see greed trump principles.<br>
          <br>
          One last note: OA will succeed, despite what Stevan says. Let
          us shape OA the right way, and certainly not in the way
          supported by Elsevier: in their view, OA is a &quot;charitable&quot;
          gesture that is applied only in extreme cases. The reality is
          that the Great Conversation of science constantly needs it.<br>
          <br>
          The right way to go is OA free for authors and for readers,
          which means that it must be subsidized. But that is all right
          because scientific research is subsidized and scientific
          communication is an integral part of scientific research (and
          it costs only 1% of the rest of research).<br>
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          Jean-Claude Guédon<br>
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          <div class="x_moz-cite-prefix">Le 31/03/2020 à 08:28, Stevan
            Harnad a écrit&nbsp;:<br>
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          <blockquote type="cite">I agree with Peter.&nbsp;
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            <div class="">Eric has gone over to the devil.&nbsp; <br>
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            <div class="">This is a shameful time for token measures. <br>
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            <div class="">Covid-19 is a litmus test for disclosing who
              are going all out for the public good and who are in it
              for themselves.&nbsp;</div>
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            <div class="">OA used to be for the sake of scientific and
              scholarly research -- an abstraction, and it did not
              succeed.&nbsp;</div>
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            <div class="">Here it’s about survival.</div>
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              <div class="" style="margin:0px; font-stretch:normal;
                line-height:normal"><span class="" style="font-kerning:none">Stevan Harnad</span></div>
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                <span class="" style="font-kerning:none; color:#000000">Editor,</span><span class="" style="font-kerning:none; color:#0b37c5">
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                <span class="" style="font-kerning:none; color:#000000">Professor
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                    <span class="" style="color:rgb(9,79,209)">Université
                      du Québec à Montréal</span></a></span></div>
              <div class="" style="margin:0px; font-stretch:normal;
                line-height:normal"><span class="" style="font-kerning:none">Adjunct Professor of
                  Cognitive Science,
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                    <span class="" style="color:rgb(11,55,197)">McGill
                      University</span></a></span></div>
              <div class="" style="margin:0px; font-stretch:normal;
                line-height:normal"><span class="" style="font-kerning:none">Emeritus Professor of
                  Cognitive Science,
                  <a href="http://www.ecs.soton.ac.uk/people/harnad" class="" moz-do-not-send="true"><span class="" style="color:rgb(9,79,209)">University of
                      Southampton</span></a></span></div>
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                  <div class="">On Mar 30, 2020, at 6:14 PM, Peter
                    Murray-Rust &lt;<a href="mailto:pm286@cam.ac.uk" class="" moz-do-not-send="true">pm286@cam.ac.uk</a>&gt;
                    wrote:</div>
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                        <div dir="ltr" class="x_gmail_attr">On Mon, Mar
                          30, 2020 at 7:48 PM Éric Archambault &lt;<a href="mailto:eric.archambault@science-metrix.com" class="" moz-do-not-send="true">eric.archambault@science-metrix.com</a>&gt;
                          wrote:<br class="">
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                                <p class="x_MsoNormal">Peter,</p>
                                <p class="x_MsoNormal">Two months ago,
                                  that is, on January 27, we started
                                  work at Elsevier to make available as
                                  much as possible of the scholarly
                                  literature on coronavirus research
                                  easily discoverable and freely
                                  accessible.</p>
                                <p class="x_MsoNormal">At 1science, we
                                  created the Coronavirus Research Hub:<br class="">
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                        <div class="">Why does Elsevier not simply open
                          all its content and let the scientific ,
                          medical and citizen community decide what they
                          want? Elsevier can't guess what we want.<br class="">
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                          The Royal Society has done this. Elsevier can
                          afford to do it.&nbsp;<br class="">
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                                <p class="x_MsoNormal">If we can help
                                  further, please let us know, we have
                                  been on it for two months and we
                                  continue to evaluate options to help
                                  the research community.</p>
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                        <div class="">My colleague, a software
                          developer,&nbsp;working for free on openVirus
                          software,&nbsp; is spending most of his time
                          working making masks in Cambridge Makespace to
                          ship to Addenbrooke's hospital. When he goes
                          to the literature to find literature on masks,
                          their efficacy and use and construction he
                          finds paywall after paywall after paywall
                          after paywall .... Some are 1-page notes
                          behind a 36 USD Elsevier paywall.&nbsp;<br class="">
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                          Do not tell us what we want. let us choose
                          freely.<br class="">
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                        <div class="">Peter Murray-Rust<br class="">
                          <br class="">
                          Volunteer fighting for free scientific
                          knowledge in a world crisis.</div>
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                              <div class="">&quot;I always retain copyright
                                in my papers, and nothing in any
                                contract I sign with any publisher will
                                override that fact. You should do the
                                same&quot;.<br class="">
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                              <div class="">Peter Murray-Rust<br class="">
                                Reader Emeritus in Molecular Informatics<br class="">
                                Unilever Centre, Dept. Of Chemistry<br class="">
                                University of Cambridge<br class="">
                                CB2 1EW, UK<br class="">
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