<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Sep 13, 2019 at 1:43 PM Heather Morrison <<a href="mailto:Heather.Morrison@uottawa.ca">Heather.Morrison@uottawa.ca</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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Thank you Peter.<br>
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I respectfully disagree. If Elsevier is retaining copyright and using an NC license, they have a right to sell the work and CCC has a right to coordinate. Elsevier practice is copyright in the name of the author with exclusive rights granted to Elsevier.<br>
<br></div></blockquote><div>Elsevier are not the copyright holders:</div><div> >>>>></div><div><br></div><div><div><h3 style="box-sizing:border-box;margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:12px;font-weight:400;font-size:1.1rem;color:rgb(0,87,137)">Copyright</h3><div class="gmail-m_2110361304818899608gmail-copyright" style="box-sizing:border-box">© 2019 The Author(s). Published by Elsevier Inc.</div><h3 style="box-sizing:border-box;margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:12px;font-weight:400;font-size:1.1rem;color:rgb(0,87,137)">User License</h3><a href="http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/4.0/" class="gmail-m_2110361304818899608gmail-userLicLnk" target="_blank" style="color:rgb(0,87,137);box-sizing:border-box;background-color:transparent;text-decoration-line:none;border-bottom:2px solid rgb(235,235,235)">Creative Commons Attribution – NonCommercial – NoDerivs (CC BY-NC-ND 4.0)</a> | <div class="gmail-m_2110361304818899608gmail-dropBlock gmail-m_2110361304818899608gmail-reference-citations" style="box-sizing:border-box;display:inline-block"><a href="https://www.cell.com/cell/fulltext/S0092-8674(19)30626-9#" class="gmail-m_2110361304818899608gmail-reference-citations__ctrl" target="_blank" style="color:rgb(0,87,137);box-sizing:border-box;background-color:transparent;text-decoration-line:none;border-bottom:2px solid rgb(235,235,235)">How you can reuse</a> <img src="https://www.cell.com/templates/jsp/_style2/_marlin/images/information.png" alt="Information Icon" class="gmail-m_2110361304818899608gmail-infoIcon gmail-CToWUd" style="box-sizing: border-box; border-style: none; max-width: 100%;"></div></div><div><div class="gmail-m_2110361304818899608gmail-dropBlock gmail-m_2110361304818899608gmail-reference-citations" style="box-sizing:border-box;display:inline-block"><br></div></div><div><div class="gmail-m_2110361304818899608gmail-dropBlock gmail-m_2110361304818899608gmail-reference-citations" style="box-sizing:border-box;display:inline-block">>>>>>></div></div><div><div class="gmail-m_2110361304818899608gmail-dropBlock gmail-m_2110361304818899608gmail-reference-citations" style="box-sizing:border-box;display:inline-block"><br></div></div><div><div class="gmail-m_2110361304818899608gmail-dropBlock gmail-m_2110361304818899608gmail-reference-citations" style="box-sizing:border-box;display:inline-block">However Elsevier are strongly asserting on CCC/Rightslink that they control the re-use of this </div></div><div><div class="gmail-m_2110361304818899608gmail-dropBlock gmail-m_2110361304818899608gmail-reference-citations" style="box-sizing:border-box;display:inline-block"><br></div></div><div><div class="gmail-m_2110361304818899608gmail-dropBlock gmail-m_2110361304818899608gmail-reference-citations" style="box-sizing:border-box;display:inline-block"><table width="640" cellspacing="5" cellpadding="0" border="0"><tbody><tr><td colspan="4" rowspan="1" class="gmail-m_7952917465665509285gmail-PageTitleCell"><p class="gmail-m_7952917465665509285gmail-PageTitle" name="pgTitleDenyRedirect" id="gmail-m_7952917465665509285gmail-pgTitleDenyRedirect">>>Permission Not Allowed</p></td></tr><tr><td colspan="2" rowspan="1" class="gmail-m_7952917465665509285gmail-MainInstructionsCell"><p class="gmail-m_7952917465665509285gmail-MainInstructions" name="InstructionsDenyRedirect" id="gmail-m_7952917465665509285gmail-InstructionsDenyRedirect">>>According to the policies of Elsevier, use of this content in the manner you are requesting is not allowed.</p></td></tr></tbody></table></div></div><div>It is about time that the Universities and Libraries and Funders challenge this.<br>It's nothing to do with "arXiv". The authors have, in good faith, paid Elsevier huge amounts of money to buy "open access" and Elsevier have published it in a framework where they assert all reuse-rights<br><br>Yes, there's a chance that if Elsevier took the re-users to court they re-users might be vindicated, but that's not open access.<br>This is close to copyfraud. </div><div><br><br></div></div><div> </div></div>-- <br><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div>"I always retain copyright in my papers, and nothing in any contract I sign with any publisher will override that fact. You should do the same".<br></div><div><br></div><div>Peter Murray-Rust<br>Reader Emeritus in Molecular Informatics<br>Unilever Centre, Dept. Of Chemistry<br>University of Cambridge<br>CB2 1EW, UK<br>+44-1223-763069</div></div></div></div></div></div>