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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Book Antiqua",serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Dear all<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Book Antiqua",serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">I am pretty much an outsider on this list. I have a serious commitment to open access publishing, and for awhile was seconded by my university to engage
with the broader agenda and its implications.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Book Antiqua",serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Since then I have been doing other work and research which makes extremely clear the extent to which corporate agents and market forces are appropriating
the open access agenda driven by profit-making . (One does not need to do additional research to know this, but our findings amplify the common sense observations.)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Book Antiqua",serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">To me this discussion seems like fiddling while Rome burns, or to put it another way (and perhaps showing my age and background) it seems like Life
of Brian where there is hair-splitting and arguments keeping people distracted with one another rather than collaborating to challenge the real forces which are threatening knowledge dissemination which serve the public good.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Book Antiqua",serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">It makes for depressing reading in the face of what needs to be done.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Book Antiqua",serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Laura<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:"Book Antiqua",serif;color:#1F497D">Professor Laura Czerniewicz<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:"Book Antiqua",serif;color:#1F497D">Director: Centre for Innovation in Learning and Teaching (CILT)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:"Book Antiqua",serif;color:#1F497D"><a href="http://www.cilt.uct.ac.za/">www.cilt.uct.ac.za</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:"Book Antiqua",serif;color:#1F497D">University of Cape Town<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:"Book Antiqua",serif;color:#1F497D">+27216505036<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:"Book Antiqua",serif;color:#1F497D">@czernie<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US"> goal-bounces@eprints.org <goal-bounces@eprints.org>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>David Prosser<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, 21 August 2019 23:43<br>
<b>To:</b> Global Open Access List (Successor of AmSci) <goal@eprints.org><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [GOAL] DOAJ: handmaiden to despots? or, OA, let's talk<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;color:black">I was on the Advisory Board at the time and so my comments may be discounted.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;color:black">But my feeling is that the history of the DOAJ over the past few years has been that it has responded positively to very robust criticism, worked closely with the wider community in an interactive
and engaged way to address such criticism, and emerged stronger as a result.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;color:black">Any suggestion that the DOAJ has regarded 'all feedback / critique as anti-open access' is, in my view, hugely wide of the mark.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;color:black">David<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:black">From:</span></b><span style="color:black">
<a href="mailto:goal-bounces@eprints.org">goal-bounces@eprints.org</a> <<a href="mailto:goal-bounces@eprints.org">goal-bounces@eprints.org</a>> on behalf of Guédon Jean-Claude <<a href="mailto:jean.claude.guedon@umontreal.ca">jean.claude.guedon@umontreal.ca</a>><br>
<b>Sent:</b> 21 August 2019 22:18<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:goal@eprints.org">goal@eprints.org</a> <<a href="mailto:goal@eprints.org">goal@eprints.org</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [GOAL] DOAJ: handmaiden to despots? or, OA, let's talk</span>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt;background:white"><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">"A habit of viewing all feedback / critique as anti-open access? Can such a statement be convincingly demonstrated? I strongly doubt it...<br>
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"...reacting defensively, as if every critic were an enemy ..."<br>
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Really? Every critic? Now, now... <br>
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IMHO, robust exchanges should not be confused with various forms of paranoia, and pointing out weaknesses in arguments is not equivalent to treating someone as an "enemy".<br>
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Jean-Claude Guédon</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white">On 2019-08-21 4:18 p.m., Heather Morrison wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white">Some further perspective on my comment "the open access movement has developed<b> a habit of viewing all feedback / critique as anti-open access
</b>[emphasis added] and reacting defensively, as if <b>every</b> [emphasis added] critic were an enemy" reflects the history of the OA movement.<o:p></o:p></p>
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