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<body lang="EN-GB" style="text-align:left; direction:ltr;"><div>Danny is spot on. The real conversation is about the reward system. In particular, we need to move away from two principles:</div><div><br></div><div>1. Journals are not good tools to evaluate the quality of individual works; individual works are;</div><div><br></div><div>2. Present reward systems focus exclusively on the outcome of competition; science need cooperation and sharing at least as much as competition.</div><div><br></div><div>Jean-Claude</div><div><br></div><div>Le mercredi 12 septembre 2018 à 12:35 +0000, Danny Kingsley a écrit&nbsp;:</div><blockquote type="cite" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex; border-left:2px #729fcf solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">&lt;Apologies for cross posting&gt;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Dear all,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">To add to the collection of commentary on Plan S I have just published two sister blogs on Unlocking Research:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">"Relax everyone, Plan S is just the beginning of the discussion"
<a href="https://unlockingresearch-blog.lib.cam.ac.uk/?p=2148">https://unlockingresearch-blog.lib.cam.ac.uk/?p=2148</a> &nbsp;and<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">"Most Plan S principles are not contentious"
<a href="https://unlockingresearch-blog.lib.cam.ac.uk/?p=2145">https://unlockingresearch-blog.lib.cam.ac.uk/?p=2145</a>
<o:p></o:p></span></li></ul>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">The general points are that this is a statement of principle rather than a set of policies, it does not necessarily represent a ligature on academic’s choice of publication (note that hybrid is not necessarily
 off the table and green OA is compliant with zero embargo and a CC-BY license), and that the real conversation we should be having is about the academic reward system rather than Plan S itself.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Enjoy!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Danny<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black">Dr Danny Kingsley</span></b><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black">Deputy Director - Scholarly Communication &amp; Research Services</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black">Head, Office of Scholarly Communication</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black">Cambridge University Library</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black">West Road, CB3 9DR</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black">e:&nbsp;<a href="mailto:dak45@cam.ac.uk"><span style="color:#6D294C">dak45@cam.ac.uk</span></a></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black">p: 01223 747 437</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black">m: 07711 500 564</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black">t: @dannykay68</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black">w:&nbsp;<a href="http://www.osc.cam.ac.uk/"><span style="color:#813B5F">www.osc.cam.ac.uk</span></a></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black">b:&nbsp;<a href="https://unlockingresearch.blog.lib.cam.ac.uk"><span style="color:blue">https://unlockingresearch.blog.lib.cam.ac.uk</span></a>&nbsp;&nbsp;</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black">o:&nbsp;</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:#39393B">orcid.org/0000-0002-3636-5939</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><i><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></i></p>
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