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My five cent here. At 1science, we used the Beall’s list as a source of inspiration to built 1journal which is a white list of academic/scientific journal we use in building 1findr - we currently have a tad more than 87,000 journals in there, and about 80,000
 journals of which have articles indexed in 1 journal.&nbsp;
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<div>While using the Beall’s list, we truly saw horror stories such as journals which claimed articles published in other journals. Most of the journals and publishers had very little activity though. Then, at the other end of the spectrum we had large, growing
 publishers. MDPI and Frontiers appeared on the list at one point or another. We found it a very difficult proposition to completely omit all the journals for publishers such as these. Some journals/publishers obviously had annoying behaviour such as spamming
 authors. Though that’s naughty, it isn’t predatory. At 1science, we aim to be exhaustive so if a company is naughty in marketing but clean in controlling articles’ quality, we’re willing to include it in 1findr and let the “market” punish them if it deems
<span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">deplorable&nbsp;</span>the spamming and other types of behaviour not linked with quality control and publisher good scholarly work.&nbsp;</div>
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<div>Having produced bibliometric analyses with Scopus and WoS for years and having built 1findr, I see absolutely no reason to panic, though I see some real cause for concern. We need research funding bodies to fund a serious study of the issue of malpractices
 in publishing and it has to be neutral to business models - malpractices can be found at traditional subscription journals and at open access journals, though the APC model certainly contributed to having unscrupulous individuals exploit the obvious weak point
 of this model. Without a serious study, we’ll continue to be distracted by sensational journalism at a time when robust data is needed.&nbsp;<br>
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On Jul 25, 2018, at 16:14, Reckling, Falk &lt;<a href="mailto:Falk.Reckling@fwf.ac.at">Falk.Reckling@fwf.ac.at</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Hi Richard,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">1) A number of actions are mentioned in the response, the most important one is to support DOAJ, to publish publication costs via Open APC
 and make publishing contracts openly in the future. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">2) There is no reliable empirical evidence that the phenomenon of predatory publishing has increased massively over time.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">3) There is still a problem of definition: Currently all sorts of things are subsumed under predatory publishing. This ranges from naive, under-funded,
 unprofessional, joke to profit-seeking and fake. That was one reason why Beall's black list was useless, not to mention Crusaderism and missing checks and balances.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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Falk<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="DE">Von:</span></b><span lang="DE"> <a href="mailto:goal-bounces@eprints.org">
goal-bounces@eprints.org</a> &lt;<a href="mailto:goal-bounces@eprints.org">goal-bounces@eprints.org</a>&gt;
<b>Im Auftrag von </b>Richard Poynder<br>
<b>Gesendet:</b> Mittwoch, 25. Juli 2018 15:22<br>
<b>An:</b> Global Open Access List (Successor of AmSci) &lt;<a href="mailto:goal@eprints.org">goal@eprints.org</a>&gt;<br>
<b>Betreff:</b> Re: [GOAL] Predatory Publishing<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Thanks for posting this Falk. I have yet to see concerted action taken anywhere to support researchers who become victims of predatory publishers.&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I also do not think I see any recognition of their plight, or details of what is being planned to help them, in your document. Perhaps I missed it.&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Anyway, I have blogged about the topic here:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><a href="https://poynder.blogspot.com/2018/07/falling-prey-to-predatory-oa-publisher.html">https://poynder.blogspot.com/2018/07/falling-prey-to-predatory-oa-publisher.html</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Richard Poynder&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Wed, 25 Jul 2018, 13:51 Reckling, Falk, &lt;<a href="mailto:Falk.Reckling@fwf.ac.at" target="_blank">Falk.Reckling@fwf.ac.at</a>&gt; wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:black">The Austrian Science Board and the FWF Respond to the Recent Media Reports on the Questionable Practices of Several Scholarly Publishers</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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Falk Reckling, PhD<br>
Head of Department<br>
Strategy - Policy, Evaluation, Analysis<br>
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