<div dir="ltr"><br><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Mar 24, 2018 at 5:27 PM, Heather Morrison <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:Heather.Morrison@uottawa.ca" target="_blank">Heather.Morrison@uottawa.ca</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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<div>CC-BY does grant blanket commercial rights to harvest and sell works, or portions of works such as images</div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Agreed. and also derivative works. However with CC BY the re-user must (normally) acknowledge original ownership or authorship and may be required to attach a copy of the original licence. <br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div>
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<div>Re: "the price of freedom is that someone should keep and advertise at least one copy of the original": this is an important point, but you need to add "free of charge", otherwise this could become a toll access service.</div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>It's a slightly fluid point. I might make works available on a physical device such as a SSD. I reserve the right to charge for the memory stick and possibly the labour involved. <br></div><div><br>The OKF (sic) anticipated this in the Open Definition (in which I participated) which states (<a href="http://opendefinition.org/od/2.1/en/">http://opendefinition.org/od/2.1/en/</a> )<br><h3 id="gmail-12-access">>>1.2 Access</h3>
<p>The <strong>work</strong> <em>must</em> be provided as a whole and at no more than a reasonable
one-time reproduction cost, and <em>should</em> be downloadable via the Internet without charge.
Any additional information necessary for license compliance (such as names of
contributors required for compliance with attribution requirements) <em>must</em> also
accompany the work.</p>
<h3 id="gmail-13-machine-readability">>>1.3 Machine Readability</h3>
<p>The <strong>work</strong> <em>must</em> be provided in a form readily
processable by a computer and where the individual elements of the work
can be easily accessed and modified.</p>
<h3 id="gmail-14-open-format">>>1.4 Open Format</h3>
<p>The <strong>work</strong> <em>must</em> be provided in an open format. An open format is
one which places no restrictions, monetary or otherwise, upon its use and can be fully processed
with at least one free/libre/open-source software tool.</p><p><<<br></p>Note the use of "a reasonable
one-time reproduction cost". This means that I might ask a re-user for (say) 20 USD for media. But the re-user can then re-copy at their own expense without permission and could offer it to others without charge.<br><br><br><div>HM>I argue that this is one of the reasons OA repositories are necessary to sustain OA. Publishers have no obligation to continue to exist or continue publishing, never mind an ongoing obligation to make works freely available on a perpetual basis.<br><br></div><div>PMR> I completely agree. Open repositories and maybe national libraries are the primary guarantee of indefinite Openness. There have (I believe) been examples of Open Access journals being purchased and then disappearing. There is also the problem of "hybrid" open access becoming closed by "mistake". I have certainly highlighted this in the past. IMO Libraries should be assiduousy ingesting "hybrid" and publicising the contents and location and adding search engines.<br></div><span class="gmail-">
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