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<p>Dear all,</p>
<p>I totally agree with Falk. In my instution we couldn´t afford
more than 64 out of about 2,500 Elsevier journal titels in the
end. The cancellation last year has no impact in our university,
because since many years we as a library were not able to fulfill
our task to provide academic content under the conditions of the
subscription system anyway. Therefore we support OA2020 and
therefore I´m looking forward to spend the Elsevier money that we
save this year e.g. for open access publications in real open
access journals. If Elsevier doesn´t want to change the business
model for journals it is ok for us, there are enough alternatives
to support the publication output of our university.<br>
</p>
<p> Best,</p>
<p>Dirk<br>
</p>
<p> <br>
</p>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Am 21.06.2017 um 10:51 schrieb
Reckling, Falk:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
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lang="EN-US">Dear All,
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:DE"
lang="EN-US">The discussion on embargos is totally useless,
we just have to follow the Max Planck initiative as already
supported by 86 institutions:
<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="https://oa2020.org/mission/">https://oa2020.org/mission/</a>
, and that is at least partly in practise by the offsetting
/ OA deals.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:DE"
lang="EN-US">Best Falk</span><span
style="color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:DE-AT"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="mso-fareast-language:DE-AT" lang="DE">Von:</span></b><span
style="mso-fareast-language:DE-AT" lang="DE">
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:goal-bounces@eprints.org">goal-bounces@eprints.org</a>
[<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:goal-bounces@eprints.org">mailto:goal-bounces@eprints.org</a>]
<b>Im Auftrag von </b>Hersh, Gemma (ELS-CAM)<br>
<b>Gesendet:</b> Mittwoch, 21. Juni 2017 09:59<br>
<b>An:</b> Global Open Access List (Successor of AmSci)
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:goal@eprints.org"><goal@eprints.org></a><br>
<b>Betreff:</b> Re: [GOAL] GOAL Digest, Vol 67, Issue 13<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB">Hi Danny<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB">This issue has been
written about extensively and there have also been studies
on this issue. I believe I may have previously consolidated
and emailed to you all of the available evidence I am aware
of, but I would be happy to do so (again) if helpful.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB">Here is a selection
for others that may be interested:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><b><span lang="EN-GB">Studies<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<ul style="margin-top:0cm" type="disc">
<li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-list:l1 level1 lfo3"><span
lang="EN-GB">In 2016, The Royal Historical Society in
Response to the Stern Review of the UK Research Excellence
Framework (REF) estimates that true download half-life of
a history article is at least 12 years. <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://royalhistsoc.org/response-stern-review-ref/">Read
more</a><o:p></o:p></span></li>
<li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-list:l1 level1 lfo3"><span
lang="EN-GB">In 2014 Phil Davis published a study
commissioned by the Association of American Publishers
</span><span
style="font-size:8.5pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black"
lang="EN-GB">(</span><span lang="EN-GB"><a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.publishers.org/usagestudy/"><span
style="font-size:8.5pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#000099">Overview</span></a></span><u><span
style="font-size:8.5pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:blue"
lang="EN-GB">, </span></u><span lang="EN-GB"><a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.publishers.org/_attachments/docs/journalusagehalflife.pdf"><span
style="font-size:8.5pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#000099">Full
Study</span></a></span><u><span
style="font-size:8.5pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:blue"
lang="EN-GB">)</span></u><span lang="EN-GB"> which
demonstrates that journal article usage varies widely
within and across disciplines, and that only 3% of of
journals have half-lives of 12 months or less. Health
sciences articles have the shortest median half-life of
the journals analyzed, but still more than 50% of health
science journals have usage half-lives longer than 24
months. In fields with the longest usage half-lives,
including mathematics and the humanities, more than 50% of
the journals have usage half-lives longer than 48 months.<o:p></o:p></span></li>
</ul>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><b><span lang="EN-GB">Articles<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<ul style="margin-top:0cm" type="disc">
<li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-list:l1 level1 lfo3"><span
lang="EN-GB"><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://scholarlykitchen.sspnet.org/2013/12/18/getting-open-access-embargoes-right-rational-policy-must-be-evidence-based/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+ScholarlyKitchen+%28The+Scholarly+Kitchen%29">Scholarly
Kitchen article</a>, Getting Open Access Embargoes
Right: Rational Policy Must Be Evidence-Based<o:p></o:p></span></li>
<li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-list:l1 level1 lfo3"><span
lang="EN-GB">Scholarly Kitchen article,
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://scholarlykitchen.sspnet.org/2013/12/18/what-is-the-lifespan-of-a-research-article/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+ScholarlyKitchen+%28The+Scholarly+Kitchen%29">What
is the Lifespan of a Research Article</a>?<o:p></o:p></span></li>
<li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-list:l1 level1 lfo3"><span
lang="EN-GB">In 2014 the British Academy published a Study
on Open Access in the Humanities and Social Sciences (<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.britac.ac.uk/openaccess/">http://www.britac.ac.uk/openaccess/</a>)
- shows that article half-lives are likely longer than
previously suggested. A 1:2 ratio for embargo period
lengths is concluded to be appropriate, but the dividing
point should not be STEM:HSS, rather given the actual
usage patterns of articles, it should be Medicine (1):
HSS, Physics, Mathematics, Chemistry and Life Sciences
(2). Suggested embargo lengths are 12 months (Biomedicine)
and 24 months (all other fields).
<o:p></o:p></span></li>
</ul>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><b><span lang="EN-GB">Evidence of harm<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<ul style="margin-top:0cm" type="disc">
<li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-list:l5 level1 lfo7"><span
lang="EN-GB">Journal of Clinical Investigation – went open
access with a 0 month embargo in 1996 and lost c. 40% of
institutional subscriptions. It blighted the economics of
the journal which was forced to return to the subscription
model in 2009: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://scholarlykitchen.sspnet.org/2009/02/26/end-of-free-access/">
http://scholarlykitchen.sspnet.org/2009/02/26/end-of-free-access/</a> <o:p></o:p></span></li>
<li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-list:l5 level1 lfo7"><span
lang="EN-GB">The Annals of Mathematics experiment in green
open access was a sobering lesson: libraries cancelled 34%
of the subscriptions between 2003 and 2008 when the
journal was freely available online. The Annals is one of
the very best journals in mathematics and one of the
cheapest journals; and so it came as a surprise to many
that some of the best- funded libraries in the US had
decided to save on the subscription rather than support
the experiment in widening access. A mathematics workshop
suggested research community support for a 5 year embargo
period in this field given that arXiv is also available.
See
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.msri.org/attachments/workshops/587/MSRIfinalreport.pdf">http://www.msri.org/attachments/workshops/587/MSRIfinalreport.pdf</a>
<o:p></o:p></span></li>
<li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-list:l5 level1 lfo7"><span
lang="EN-GB">American Journal of Pathology lengthened its
embargo period and began working with a commercial
publisher because of the negative impact on subscriptions
of a 6 month embargo.<o:p></o:p></span></li>
<li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-list:l5 level1 lfo7"><span
lang="EN-GB">Genetics has increased its embargo period
from 3, then to 6, then to 12 months because of a negative
impact on subscriptions. They have needed to balance a 12
month embargo with the addition of an author payment in
order to make this embargo length work – even though they
publish in the life sciences.<o:p></o:p></span></li>
</ul>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><b><span lang="EN-GB">Evidence for the
potential effect of embargoes on cancellations<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<ul style="margin-top:0cm" type="disc">
<li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-list:l3 level1 lfo10"><span
lang="EN-GB">In 2012, was a simple one-question survey by
ALPSP: "If the (majority of) content of research journals
was freely available within 6 months of publication, would
you continue to subscribe?" The results “indicate that
only 56% of those subscribing to journals in the STM field
would definitely continue to subscribe. In AHSS, this
drops to just 35%. " More information is available on the
ALPSP site and in embedded links
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.alpsp.org/ebusiness/AboutALPSP/ALPSPStatements/Statementdetails.aspx?ID=407">here</a>.
This result builds on earlier, more nuanced studies
undertaken for ALPSP in 2009 and 2006 and by PRC in 2006.<o:p></o:p></span></li>
</ul>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB">Kind regards<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB">Gemma<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-GB"
lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-GB"
lang="EN-US">-----Original Message-----<br>
From: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:goal-bounces@eprints.org">goal-bounces@eprints.org</a>
[<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:goal-bounces@eprints.org">mailto:goal-bounces@eprints.org</a>]
On Behalf Of Dr D.A. Kingsley<br>
Sent: 20 June 2017 21:18<br>
To: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:goal@eprints.org">goal@eprints.org</a><br>
Subject: Re: [GOAL] GOAL Digest, Vol 67, Issue 13</span><span
lang="EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB">*** External email:
use caution ***<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB">Gemma,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB">Please provide
evidence for your statement "an embargo period is needed to
enable the subscription model to continue to operate, in the
absence of a separate business model˛ other than it sounds
like it *probably* should be true.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB">We all thought cough
medicine should work until someone tested it.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB">Danny<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB">Dr Danny Kingsley<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB">Head, Office of
Scholarly Communication<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB">Cambridge University
LibraryWest Road, CB3 9DR<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB">e: <a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:dak45@cam.ac.uk"><span
style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">dak45@cam.ac.uk</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB">p: 01223 747 437<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB">m: 07711 500 564<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB">t: @dannykay68<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB">w: <a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.osc.cam.ac.uk">
<span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">www.osc.cam.ac.uk</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB">b: <a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="https://unlocking"><span
style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">https://unlocking</span></a>
research.blog.lib.cam.ac.uk<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB">o:
orcid.org/0000-0002-3636-5939<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB">On 20/06/17 07:27, "<a
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style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">goal-bounces@eprints.org
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style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">goal-bounces@eprints.org
on behalf of goal-request@eprints.org</span></a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB">>Send GOAL mailing
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<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB">><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB">>Today's Topics:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB">><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB">> 1. Re:
Elsevier's interpretation of CC BY-NC-ND<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB">> (Hersh,
Gemma (ELS-CAM))<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB">><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB">><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB">>----------------------------------------------------------------------<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB">><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB">>Message: 1<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB">>Date: Tue, 20 Jun
2017 06:17:46 +0000<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB">>From: "Hersh,
Gemma (ELS-CAM)" <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:g.hersh@elsevier.com"><span
style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">g.hersh@elsevier.com</span></a>><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB">>Subject: Re:
[GOAL] Elsevier's interpretation of CC BY-NC-ND<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB">>To: "Global Open
Access List (Successor of AmSci)" <<a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:goal@eprints.org"><span
style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">goal@eprints.org</span></a>><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB">>Message-ID:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB">> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB">><<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:CY4PR08MB2838541601FBD60EECB655FE8FC50@CY4PR08MB2838.namprd08.prod.out">CY4PR08MB2838541601FBD60EECB655FE8FC50@CY4PR08MB2838.namprd08.prod.out</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB">>lo<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB">>ok.com><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB">><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB">>Content-Type:
text/plain; charset="utf-8"<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB">><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB">>Dear Richard<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB">><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB">>Elsevier's
hosting<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB">>policy<<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://www.elsevier.com/about/our-business/policies/hosting"><span
style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">https://www.elsevier.com/about/our-business/policies/hosting</span></a>><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB">>explains how
platforms can host Elsevier content. This includes
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB">>enabling
institutional repositories to share their employee's or
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB">>student's
accepted manuscripts publicly after an embargo period, but
not beforehand.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB">><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB">>The challenge
with the proposal below is that it wouldn?t really work
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB">>very well for
very long; an embargo period is needed to enable the
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB">>subscription
model to continue to operate, in the absence of a separate
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB">>business model.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB">><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB">>Best wishes<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB">><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB">>Gemma<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB">><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB">>Gemma Hersh<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB">>VP, Policy and
Communications<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB">>Elsevier I 125
London Wall I London I EC2Y 5AS<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB">>M: +44 (0) 7855
258 957 I E:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB">><a
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href="mailto:g.hersh@elsevier.com%3cmailto:g.hersh@elsevier.com"><span
style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">g.hersh@elsevier.com<mailto:g.hersh@elsevier.com</span></a>><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB">>Twitter:
@gemmahersh<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB">><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB">><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB">><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB">><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB">>From: <a
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On
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<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB">>Behalf Of Richard
Poynder<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB">>Sent: 18 June
2017 14:30<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB">>To: Global Open
Access List (Successor of AmSci) <<a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:goal@eprints.org"><span
style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">goal@eprints.org</span></a>><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB">>Subject: Re:
[GOAL] Elsevier's interpretation of CC BY-NC-ND<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB">><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB">><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB">>*** External
email: use caution ***<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB">><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB">><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB">>On a related
topic, this poster might be of interest to list members:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB">><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB">>Exploiting
Elsevier?s Creative Commons License Requirement to Subvert
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB">>Embargo<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB">><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB">>"In the last
round of author sharing policy revisions, Elsevier created
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB">>a labyrinthine
title-by-title embargo structure requiring embargoes
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB">>from<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB">>12-48 months for
author sharing via institutional repository (IR),
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB">>while permitting
immediate sharing via author's personal website or
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB">>blog. At the same
time, all pre-publication versions are to bear a
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB">>Creative
Commons-Attribution-Noncommercial-No Derivatives
(CC-BY-NC-ND) license.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB">><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB">>"At the time this
policy was announced, it was rightly criticized by
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB">>many in the
scholarly communication community as overly complicated and
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB">>unnecessary.
However, this CC licensing requirement creates an avenue
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB">>for subverting
the embargo in the IR to achieve quicker open
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB">>distribution of
the author's accepted manuscript.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB">><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB">>"In short,
authors may post an appropriately licensed copy on their
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB">>personal site, at
which point we may deposit without embargo in the IR,
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB">>not through the
license granted in the publication agreement, but
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB">>through the CC
license on the author's version, which the sharing
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB">>policy mandates.
This poster will outline this issue, our
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB">>experimentation
with application, and engage viewers in questions
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB">>regarding its
potential risks, benefits, and workflows."<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB">><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB">><a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://kuscholarworks.ku.edu/handle/1808/24107"><span
style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">https://kuscholarworks.ku.edu/handle/1808/24107</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB">><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB">>?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB">><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB">><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB">>On 18 June 2017
at 12:24, Mittermaier, Bernhard
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB">><<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:b.mittermaier@fz-juelich.de%3cmailto:b.mittermaier@fz-juelich.de"><span
style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">b.mittermaier@fz-juelich.de<mailto:b.mittermaier@fz-juelich.de</span></a>>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB">>Dear colleagues,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB">><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB">>on sharing in
file-sharing networks, Creatice Commons explain:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB">><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB">>?Can I share
CC-licensed material on file-sharing networks?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB">>Yes. All CC
licenses allow redistribution of the unmodified material by
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB">>any means,
including distribution via file-sharing networks. Note that
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB">>file-trading is
expressly considered to be noncommercial for purposes
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB">>of compliance
with the NC licenses. Barter of NC-licensed material for
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB">>other items of
value is not permitted.?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB">><a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://creativecommons.org/faq/#can-i-share-cc-licensed-material-on-fi"><span
style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">https://creativecommons.org/faq/#can-i-share-cc-licensed-material-on-fi</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB">>le-<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB">>sharing-networks<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB">><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB">>The ?Elsevier
Sharing Rules? say<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB">>?CC-BY-NC-ND
licensed articles may be shared on non-commercial
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB">>platforms only.?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB">><a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://help.sciencedirect.com/flare/sdhelp_Left.htm#CSHID=password.htm%7C"><span
style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">http://help.sciencedirect.com/flare/sdhelp_Left.htm#CSHID=password.htm|</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB">>Sta <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB">>rtTopic=Content%2Fsharing_pubs.htm|SkinName=svs_SD<<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://help.scienced">http://help.scienced</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB">>ire <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB">>ct.com/flare/sdhelp_Left.htm#CSHID=password.htm%7CStartTopic=Content%2F<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB">>sha<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB">>ring_pubs.htm%7CSkinName=svs_SD><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB">><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB">>and again in the
table at the bottom of that webpage: ?Public posting
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB">>on commercial
platforms (e.g., <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB">><a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.researchgate.net%3chttp:/www.researchgate.net"><span
style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">www.researchgate.net<http://www.researchgate.net</span></a>>,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB">><a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.academia.edu%3chttp:/www.academia.edu"><span
style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">www.academia.edu<http://www.academia.edu</span></a>>)?
:not allowed<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB">><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB">>I?ve been asking
Alicia Wise, on what grounds why Elsevier takes that
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB">>position. She
replied:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB">>?Both
ResearchGate & academia.edu<<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://academia.edu"><span
style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">http://academia.edu</span></a>>
use content
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB">>commercially to
sell advertising & services around the content they
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB">>disseminate? and
?Both ResearchGate &
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB">>academia.edu<<a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="https://t.co/IQgdiiCF1s"><span
style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">https://t.co/IQgdiiCF1s</span></a>>
are problems in Germany as they
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB">>go beyond private
use to make NC content publicly available?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB">>(<a
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href="https://twitter.com/wisealic/status/874284792275140609"><span
style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">https://twitter.com/wisealic/status/874284792275140609</span></a>
and<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB">><a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://twitter.com/wisealic/status/874284916644696066"><span
style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">https://twitter.com/wisealic/status/874284916644696066</span></a>
)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB">><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB">>My interpretation
of the CC licence is that sharing of CC BY-NC-ND
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB">>article by
commercial platforms is OK as long as they don?t sell the
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB">>articles (which
they don?t do).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB">>But apart from
that - what authors are doing is IMHO definitely not
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB">>prohibited
because they have no commercial gain whatsoever.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB">><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB">>What do you
think?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB">><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB">>Kind regards<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB">>Bernhard<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB">>###########################################<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB">><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB">>Dr. Bernhard
Mittermaier<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB">>Forschungszentrum
J?lich GmbH<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB">>Leiter der
Zentralbibliothek / Head of the Central Library<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB">>52425 J?lich<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB">>Tel
++49-2461-613013<<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="tel:+49%202461%20613013"><span
style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">tel:+49%202461%20613013</span></a>><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB">>Fax
++49-2461-616103<<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="tel:+49%202461%20616103"><span
style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">tel:+49%202461%20616103</span></a>><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB">><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB">>Sitz der
Gesellschaft: Juelich<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB">>Eingetragen im
Handelsregister des Amtsgerichts Dueren Nr. HR B 3498
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB">>Vorsitzender des
Aufsichtsrats: MinDir Dr. Karl Eugen Huthmacher<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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Prof. Dr.-Ing. Wolfgang Marquardt (Vorsitzender),
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB">>Karsten Beneke
(stellv. Vorsitzender), Prof. Dr.-Ing. Harald Bolt,
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB">>Prof. Dr.
Sebastian M. Schmidt<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB">><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB">><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB">>_______________________________________________<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB">>GOAL mailing list<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB">><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB">>--<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB">>Richard Poynder<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB">><a
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<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB">><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB">>________________________________<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB">><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB">>Elsevier Limited.
Registered Office: The Boulevard, Langford Lane,
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Oxford, OX5 1GB, United Kingdom, Registration No. 1982084,
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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