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<p class="MsoPlainText">Hi Danny<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">This issue has been written about extensively and there have also been studies on this issue. I believe I may have previously consolidated and emailed to you all of the available evidence I am aware of, but I would be happy to do so
(again) if helpful.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">Here is a selection for others that may be interested:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><b>Studies<o:p></o:p></b></p>
<ul style="margin-top:0cm" type="disc">
<li class="MsoPlainText" style="margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1">In 2016, The Royal Historical Society in Response to the Stern Review of the UK Research Excellence Framework (REF) estimates that true download half-life of a history article is at least
12 years. <a href="http://royalhistsoc.org/response-stern-review-ref/">Read more</a><o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoPlainText" style="margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1">In 2014 Phil Davis published a study commissioned by the Association of American Publishers
<span style="font-size:8.5pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black">(</span><a href="http://www.publishers.org/usagestudy/"><span style="font-size:8.5pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#000099">Overview</span></a><u><span style="font-size:8.5pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:blue">, </span></u><a href="http://www.publishers.org/_attachments/docs/journalusagehalflife.pdf"><span style="font-size:8.5pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#000099">Full
Study</span></a><u><span style="font-size:8.5pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:blue">)</span></u> which demonstrates that journal article usage varies widely within and across disciplines, and that only 3% of of journals have half-lives of 12 months
or less. Health sciences articles have the shortest median half-life of the journals analyzed, but still more than 50% of health science journals have usage half-lives longer than 24 months. In fields with the longest usage half-lives, including mathematics
and the humanities, more than 50% of the journals have usage half-lives longer than 48 months.<o:p></o:p></li></ul>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><b>Articles<o:p></o:p></b></p>
<ul style="margin-top:0cm" type="disc">
<li class="MsoPlainText" style="margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1"><a href="http://scholarlykitchen.sspnet.org/2013/12/18/getting-open-access-embargoes-right-rational-policy-must-be-evidence-based/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+ScholarlyKitchen+%28The+Scholarly+Kitchen%29">Scholarly
Kitchen article</a>, Getting Open Access Embargoes Right: Rational Policy Must Be Evidence-Based<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoPlainText" style="margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1">Scholarly Kitchen article,
<a href="http://scholarlykitchen.sspnet.org/2013/12/18/what-is-the-lifespan-of-a-research-article/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+ScholarlyKitchen+%28The+Scholarly+Kitchen%29">
What is the Lifespan of a Research Article</a>?<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoPlainText" style="margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1">In 2014 the British Academy published a Study on Open Access in the Humanities and Social Sciences (<a href="http://www.britac.ac.uk/openaccess/">http://www.britac.ac.uk/openaccess/</a>)
- shows that article half-lives are likely longer than previously suggested. A 1:2 ratio for embargo period lengths is concluded to be appropriate, but the dividing point should not be STEM:HSS, rather given the actual usage patterns of articles, it should
be Medicine (1): HSS, Physics, Mathematics, Chemistry and Life Sciences (2). Suggested embargo lengths are 12 months (Biomedicine) and 24 months (all other fields).
<o:p></o:p></li></ul>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><b>Evidence of harm<o:p></o:p></b></p>
<ul style="margin-top:0cm" type="disc">
<li class="MsoPlainText" style="margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo3">Journal of Clinical Investigation – went open access with a 0 month embargo in 1996 and lost c. 40% of institutional subscriptions. It blighted the economics of the journal which was forced
to return to the subscription model in 2009: <a href="http://scholarlykitchen.sspnet.org/2009/02/26/end-of-free-access/">
http://scholarlykitchen.sspnet.org/2009/02/26/end-of-free-access/</a> <o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoPlainText" style="margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo3">The Annals of Mathematics experiment in green open access was a sobering lesson: libraries cancelled 34% of the subscriptions between 2003 and 2008 when the journal was freely available
online. The Annals is one of the very best journals in mathematics and one of the cheapest journals; and so it came as a surprise to many that some of the best- funded libraries in the US had decided to save on the subscription rather than support the experiment
in widening access. A mathematics workshop suggested research community support for a 5 year embargo period in this field given that arXiv is also available. See
<a href="http://www.msri.org/attachments/workshops/587/MSRIfinalreport.pdf">http://www.msri.org/attachments/workshops/587/MSRIfinalreport.pdf</a>
<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoPlainText" style="margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo3">American Journal of Pathology lengthened its embargo period and began working with a commercial publisher because of the negative impact on subscriptions of a 6 month embargo.<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoPlainText" style="margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo3">Genetics has increased its embargo period from 3, then to 6, then to 12 months because of a negative impact on subscriptions. They have needed to balance a 12 month embargo with the addition
of an author payment in order to make this embargo length work – even though they publish in the life sciences.<o:p></o:p></li></ul>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><b>Evidence for the potential effect of embargoes on cancellations<o:p></o:p></b></p>
<ul style="margin-top:0cm" type="disc">
<li class="MsoPlainText" style="margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo4">In 2012, was a simple one-question survey by ALPSP: "If the (majority of) content of research journals was freely available within 6 months of publication, would you continue to subscribe?"
The results “indicate that only 56% of those subscribing to journals in the STM field would definitely continue to subscribe. In AHSS, this drops to just 35%. " More information is available on the ALPSP site and in embedded links
<a href="http://www.alpsp.org/ebusiness/AboutALPSP/ALPSPStatements/Statementdetails.aspx?ID=407">
here</a>. This result builds on earlier, more nuanced studies undertaken for ALPSP in 2009 and 2006 and by PRC in 2006.<o:p></o:p></li></ul>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">Kind regards<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">Gemma<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">-----Original Message-----<br>
From: goal-bounces@eprints.org [mailto:goal-bounces@eprints.org] On Behalf Of Dr D.A. Kingsley<br>
Sent: 20 June 2017 21:18<br>
To: goal@eprints.org<br>
Subject: Re: [GOAL] GOAL Digest, Vol 67, Issue 13</span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">*** External email: use caution ***<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText">Gemma,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">Please provide evidence for your statement "an embargo period is needed to enable the subscription model to continue to operate, in the absence of a separate business model² other than it sounds like it *probably* should be true.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">We all thought cough medicine should work until someone tested it.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">Danny<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">Dr Danny Kingsley<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">Head, Office of Scholarly Communication<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">Cambridge University LibraryWest Road, CB3 9DR<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">e: <a href="mailto:dak45@cam.ac.uk"><span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">dak45@cam.ac.uk</span></a><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">p: 01223 747 437<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">m: 07711 500 564<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">t: @dannykay68<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">w: <a href="http://www.osc.cam.ac.uk"><span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">www.osc.cam.ac.uk</span></a><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">b: <a href="https://unlocking"><span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">https://unlocking</span></a> research.blog.lib.cam.ac.uk<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">o: orcid.org/0000-0002-3636-5939<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText">On 20/06/17 07:27, "<a href="mailto:goal-bounces@eprints.org%20on%20behalf%20of%20goal-request@eprints.org"><span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">goal-bounces@eprints.org on behalf of goal-request@eprints.org</span></a>"
<<a href="mailto:goal-bounces@eprints.org%20on%20behalf%20of%20goal-request@eprints.org"><span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">goal-bounces@eprints.org on behalf of goal-request@eprints.org</span></a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText">> 1. Re: Elsevier's interpretation of CC BY-NC-ND<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">> (Hersh, Gemma (ELS-CAM))<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText">>Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2017 06:17:46 +0000<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>From: "Hersh, Gemma (ELS-CAM)" <<a href="mailto:g.hersh@elsevier.com"><span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">g.hersh@elsevier.com</span></a>><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>Subject: Re: [GOAL] Elsevier's interpretation of CC BY-NC-ND<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>To: "Global Open Access List (Successor of AmSci)" <<a href="mailto:goal@eprints.org"><span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">goal@eprints.org</span></a>><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText">><CY4PR08MB2838541601FBD60EECB655FE8FC50@CY4PR08MB2838.namprd08.prod.out<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText">>Dear Richard<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText">>Elsevier's hosting<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>policy<<a href="https://www.elsevier.com/about/our-business/policies/hosting"><span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">https://www.elsevier.com/about/our-business/policies/hosting</span></a>><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>explains how platforms can host Elsevier content. This includes
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<p class="MsoPlainText">>enabling institutional repositories to share their employee's or
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<p class="MsoPlainText">>student's accepted manuscripts publicly after an embargo period, but not beforehand.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText">>The challenge with the proposal below is that it wouldn?t really work
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<p class="MsoPlainText">>very well for very long; an embargo period is needed to enable the
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<p class="MsoPlainText">>subscription model to continue to operate, in the absence of a separate
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<p class="MsoPlainText">>Best wishes<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText">>Gemma<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText">>Gemma Hersh<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>VP, Policy and Communications<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>Elsevier I 125 London Wall I London I EC2Y 5AS<o:p></o:p></p>
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On <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>Behalf Of Richard Poynder<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>Sent: 18 June 2017 14:30<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>To: Global Open Access List (Successor of AmSci) <<a href="mailto:goal@eprints.org"><span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">goal@eprints.org</span></a>><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>Subject: Re: [GOAL] Elsevier's interpretation of CC BY-NC-ND<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText">>On a related topic, this poster might be of interest to list members:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText">>Exploiting Elsevier?s Creative Commons License Requirement to Subvert
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<p class="MsoPlainText">>Embargo<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>"In the last round of author sharing policy revisions, Elsevier created
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<p class="MsoPlainText">>a labyrinthine title-by-title embargo structure requiring embargoes
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<p class="MsoPlainText">>from<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>12-48 months for author sharing via institutional repository (IR),
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<p class="MsoPlainText">>while permitting immediate sharing via author's personal website or
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<p class="MsoPlainText">>blog. At the same time, all pre-publication versions are to bear a
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<p class="MsoPlainText">>Creative Commons-Attribution-Noncommercial-No Derivatives (CC-BY-NC-ND) license.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>"At the time this policy was announced, it was rightly criticized by
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<p class="MsoPlainText">>many in the scholarly communication community as overly complicated and
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<p class="MsoPlainText">>unnecessary. However, this CC licensing requirement creates an avenue
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<p class="MsoPlainText">>for subverting the embargo in the IR to achieve quicker open
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<p class="MsoPlainText">>distribution of the author's accepted manuscript.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>"In short, authors may post an appropriately licensed copy on their
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<p class="MsoPlainText">>personal site, at which point we may deposit without embargo in the IR,
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<p class="MsoPlainText">>not through the license granted in the publication agreement, but
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<p class="MsoPlainText">>through the CC license on the author's version, which the sharing
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<p class="MsoPlainText">>policy mandates. This poster will outline this issue, our
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<p class="MsoPlainText">>experimentation with application, and engage viewers in questions
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<p class="MsoPlainText">>regarding its potential risks, benefits, and workflows."<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">><a href="https://kuscholarworks.ku.edu/handle/1808/24107"><span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">https://kuscholarworks.ku.edu/handle/1808/24107</span></a><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText">>On 18 June 2017 at 12:24, Mittermaier, Bernhard <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">><<a href="mailto:b.mittermaier@fz-juelich.de%3cmailto:b.mittermaier@fz-juelich.de"><span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">b.mittermaier@fz-juelich.de<mailto:b.mittermaier@fz-juelich.de</span></a>>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>Dear colleagues,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>on sharing in file-sharing networks, Creatice Commons explain:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>?Can I share CC-licensed material on file-sharing networks?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>Yes. All CC licenses allow redistribution of the unmodified material by
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<p class="MsoPlainText">>any means, including distribution via file-sharing networks. Note that
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<p class="MsoPlainText">>file-trading is expressly considered to be noncommercial for purposes
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<p class="MsoPlainText">>of compliance with the NC licenses. Barter of NC-licensed material for
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<p class="MsoPlainText">>other items of value is not permitted.?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">><a href="https://creativecommons.org/faq/#can-i-share-cc-licensed-material-on-fi"><span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">https://creativecommons.org/faq/#can-i-share-cc-licensed-material-on-fi</span></a><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>le-<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>sharing-networks<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>The ?Elsevier Sharing Rules? say<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>?CC-BY-NC-ND licensed articles may be shared on non-commercial
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<p class="MsoPlainText">>platforms only.?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">><a href="http://help.sciencedirect.com/flare/sdhelp_Left.htm#CSHID=password.htm|"><span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">http://help.sciencedirect.com/flare/sdhelp_Left.htm#CSHID=password.htm|</span></a><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>Sta <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>rtTopic=Content%2Fsharing_pubs.htm|SkinName=svs_SD<http://help.scienced<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>ire <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>ct.com/flare/sdhelp_Left.htm#CSHID=password.htm%7CStartTopic=Content%2F<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>sha<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>ring_pubs.htm%7CSkinName=svs_SD><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>and again in the table at the bottom of that webpage: ?Public posting
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<p class="MsoPlainText">>on commercial platforms (e.g., <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">><a href="http://www.researchgate.net%3chttp:/www.researchgate.net"><span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">www.researchgate.net<http://www.researchgate.net</span></a>>,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">><a href="http://www.academia.edu%3chttp:/www.academia.edu"><span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">www.academia.edu<http://www.academia.edu</span></a>>)? :not allowed<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>I?ve been asking Alicia Wise, on what grounds why Elsevier takes that
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<p class="MsoPlainText">>position. She replied:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>?Both ResearchGate & academia.edu<<a href="http://academia.edu"><span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">http://academia.edu</span></a>> use content
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>commercially to sell advertising & services around the content they
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<p class="MsoPlainText">>disseminate? and ?Both ResearchGate & <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>academia.edu<<a href="https://t.co/IQgdiiCF1s"><span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">https://t.co/IQgdiiCF1s</span></a>> are problems in Germany as they
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<p class="MsoPlainText">>go beyond private use to make NC content publicly available?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>(<a href="https://twitter.com/wisealic/status/874284792275140609"><span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">https://twitter.com/wisealic/status/874284792275140609</span></a> and<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">><a href="https://twitter.com/wisealic/status/874284916644696066"><span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">https://twitter.com/wisealic/status/874284916644696066</span></a> )<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>My interpretation of the CC licence is that sharing of CC BY-NC-ND
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<p class="MsoPlainText">>article by commercial platforms is OK as long as they don?t sell the
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<p class="MsoPlainText">>articles (which they don?t do).<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>But apart from that - what authors are doing is IMHO definitely not
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<p class="MsoPlainText">>prohibited because they have no commercial gain whatsoever.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>What do you think?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>Kind regards<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>Bernhard<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>###########################################<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText">>Dr. Bernhard Mittermaier<o:p></o:p></p>
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