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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Dear Richard<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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Elsevier's <a href="https://www.elsevier.com/about/our-business/policies/hosting">
hosting policy</a> explains how platforms can host Elsevier content. This includes enabling institutional repositories to share their employee's or student's accepted manuscripts publicly after an embargo period, but not beforehand. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">The challenge with the proposal below is that it <span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">
wouldn’t really work very well for very long; an embargo period is needed to enable the subscription model to continue to operate, in the absence of a separate business model.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Best wishes<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#7F7F7F">Gemma Hersh<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US"> goal-bounces@eprints.org [mailto:goal-bounces@eprints.org]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Richard Poynder<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 18 June 2017 14:30<br>
<b>To:</b> Global Open Access List (Successor of AmSci) <goal@eprints.org><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [GOAL] Elsevier's interpretation of CC BY-NC-ND<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">On a related topic, this poster might be of interest to list members:</span><span style="font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b><span style="font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">Exploiting Elsevier’s Creative Commons License Requirement to Subvert Embargo</span></b><span style="font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">"In the last round of author sharing policy revisions, Elsevier created a labyrinthine title-by-title embargo structure
requiring embargoes from 12-48 months for author sharing via institutional repository (IR), while permitting immediate sharing via author's personal website or blog. At the same time, all pre-publication versions are to bear a Creative Commons-Attribution-Noncommercial-No
Derivatives (CC-BY-NC-ND) license. </span><span style="font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">"At the time this policy was announced, it was rightly criticized by many in the scholarly communication community
as overly complicated and unnecessary. However, this CC licensing requirement creates an avenue for subverting the embargo in the IR to achieve quicker open distribution of the author's accepted manuscript. </span><span style="font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">"In short, authors may post an appropriately licensed copy on their personal site, at which point we may deposit
without embargo in the IR, not through the license granted in the publication agreement, but through the CC license on the author's version, which the sharing policy mandates. This poster will outline this issue, our experimentation with application, and engage
viewers in questions regarding its potential risks, benefits, and workflows."</span><span style="font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 18 June 2017 at 12:24, Mittermaier, Bernhard <<a href="mailto:b.mittermaier@fz-juelich.de" target="_blank">b.mittermaier@fz-juelich.de</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Dear colleagues,<span lang="DE"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <span lang="DE"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">on sharing in file-sharing networks, Creatice Commons explain:
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <span lang="DE"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">“Can I share CC-licensed material on file-sharing networks?<span lang="DE"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Yes. All CC licenses allow redistribution of the unmodified material by any means, including distribution via file-sharing networks. Note that file-trading is expressly considered
to be noncommercial for purposes of compliance with the NC licenses. Barter of NC-licensed material for other items of value is not permitted.”<span lang="DE"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><a href="https://creativecommons.org/faq/#can-i-share-cc-licensed-material-on-file-sharing-networks" target="_blank">https://creativecommons.org/faq/#can-i-share-cc-licensed-material-on-file-sharing-networks</a>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <span lang="DE"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">The “Elsevier Sharing Rules” say<span lang="DE"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">“CC-BY-NC-ND licensed articles may be shared on non-commercial platforms only.”<span lang="DE"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><a href="http://help.sciencedirect.com/flare/sdhelp_Left.htm#CSHID=password.htm%7CStartTopic=Content%2Fsharing_pubs.htm%7CSkinName=svs_SD" target="_blank">http://help.sciencedirect.com/flare/sdhelp_Left.htm#CSHID=password.htm|StartTopic=Content%2Fsharing_pubs.htm|SkinName=svs_SD</a><span lang="DE"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <span lang="DE"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">and again in the table at the bottom of that webpage: “Public posting on commercial platforms (e.g.,
<a href="http://www.researchgate.net" target="_blank">www.researchgate.net</a>, <a href="http://www.academia.edu" target="_blank">
www.academia.edu</a>)” :not allowed<span lang="DE"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">I’ve been asking Alicia Wise, on what grounds why Elsevier takes that position. She replied:
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">„Both ResearchGate &
<a href="http://academia.edu" target="_blank">academia.edu</a> use content commercially to sell advertising & services around the content they disseminate” and “Both ResearchGate &
<a href="https://t.co/IQgdiiCF1s" target="_blank" title="http://Academia.edu"><span class="m4621708708008501627invisible">academia.edu</span></a> are problems in Germany as they go beyond private use to make NC content publicly available” (<a href="https://twitter.com/wisealic/status/874284792275140609" target="_blank">https://twitter.com/wisealic/status/874284792275140609</a>
and <a href="https://twitter.com/wisealic/status/874284916644696066" target="_blank">
https://twitter.com/wisealic/status/874284916644696066</a> )<span lang="DE"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <span lang="DE"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">My interpretation of the CC licence is that sharing of CC BY-NC-ND article by commercial platforms is OK as long as they don’t sell the articles (which they don’t do).
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">But apart from that - what authors are doing is IMHO definitely not prohibited because they have no commercial gain whatsoever.<span lang="DE"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">What do you think?<span lang="DE"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Kind regards<span lang="DE"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="DE">Bernhard<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="DE">Dr. Bernhard Mittermaier<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="DE">Forschungszentrum Jülich GmbH<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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