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<p><font color="#000000">Sorry - sending this again - since I forgot
to add the list email to it.<br>
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<p>Re: <font color="#000000"><font color="#000000">Creative
Commons-Attribution-Noncommercial-No Derivatives (CC-BY-NC-ND)</font></font></p>
<p><font color="#000000">The fact that it says "No Derivatives" </font><font
color="#000000">seems a concern for example sometimes
researchers can publish a summary of other peoples articles and
then include all the articles used in the references. But if it
says "No Derivatives" does this mean the articles written by
other people cannot be used to contribute towards your research,
in which case, what is the point in reading them? Also part of
the point of reading an article is to gain ideas from other
people which can then be used to create new things by the
researcher, but, this is potentially a "derivative" work since
it can build on the work of others. So I think there is a
problem there too.<br>
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Jevan.<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On Sun 18-Jun-17 10:29 PM, Richard
Poynder wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="#000000">On a related topic,
this poster might be of interest to list
members:<span></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><font color="#000000">Exploiting
Elsevier’s
Creative Commons License Requirement to Subvert Embargo<span></span></font></b></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="#000000">"In the last round
of
author sharing policy revisions, Elsevier created a
labyrinthine title-by-title
embargo structure requiring embargoes from 12-48 months
for author sharing via
institutional repository (IR), while permitting immediate
sharing via author's
personal website or blog. At the same time, all
pre-publication versions are to
bear a Creative Commons-Attribution-Noncommercial-No
Derivatives (CC-BY-NC-ND)
license. </font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="#000000">"At the time this
policy was announced, it was rightly criticized by
many in the scholarly communication community as overly
complicated and
unnecessary. However, this CC licensing requirement
creates an avenue for
subverting the embargo in the IR to achieve quicker open
distribution of the
author's accepted manuscript. </font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="#000000">"In short, authors
may post an appropriately
licensed copy on their personal site, at which point we
may deposit without embargo
in the IR, not through the license granted in the
publication agreement, but
through the CC license on the author's version, which the
sharing policy
mandates. This poster will outline this issue, our
experimentation with
application, and engage viewers in questions regarding its
potential risks,
benefits, and workflows."<span></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><a
href="https://kuscholarworks.ku.edu/handle/1808/24107"
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<div class="gmail_quote">On 18 June 2017 at 12:24, Mittermaier,
Bernhard <span dir="ltr"><<a
href="mailto:b.mittermaier@fz-juelich.de" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">b.mittermaier@fz-juelich.de</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">Dear colleagues,</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">on sharing in
file-sharing networks, Creatice Commons explain: </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">“Can I share
CC-licensed material on file-sharing networks?</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">Yes. All CC
licenses allow redistribution of the unmodified
material by any means, including distribution via
file-sharing networks. Note that file-trading is
expressly considered to be noncommercial for
purposes of compliance with the NC licenses. Barter
of NC-licensed material for other items of value is
not permitted.”</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"><a
href="https://creativecommons.org/faq/#can-i-share-cc-licensed-material-on-file-sharing-networks"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://creativecommons.org/<wbr>faq/#can-i-share-cc-licensed-<wbr>material-on-file-sharing-<wbr>networks</a>
</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">The “Elsevier
Sharing Rules” say</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">“CC-BY-NC-ND
licensed articles may be shared on non-commercial
platforms only.”</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"><a
href="http://help.sciencedirect.com/flare/sdhelp_Left.htm#CSHID=password.htm%7CStartTopic=Content%2Fsharing_pubs.htm%7CSkinName=svs_SD"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">http://help.sciencedirect.com/<wbr>flare/sdhelp_Left.htm#CSHID=<wbr>password.htm|StartTopic=<wbr>Content%2Fsharing_pubs.htm|<wbr>SkinName=svs_SD</a></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">and again in the
table at the bottom of that webpage: “Public posting
on commercial platforms (e.g., <a
href="http://www.researchgate.net" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">www.researchgate.net</a>, <a
href="http://www.academia.edu" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">www.academia.edu</a>)” :not
allowed</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">I’ve been asking
Alicia Wise, on what grounds why Elsevier takes that
position. She replied: </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">„Both
ResearchGate & <a href="http://academia.edu"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">academia.edu</a>
use content commercially to sell advertising &
services around the content they disseminate” and
“Both ResearchGate & </span><a
href="https://t.co/IQgdiiCF1s"
title="http://Academia.edu" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true"><span
class="m_4621708708008501627invisible"><span
style="color:blue" lang="EN-GB">academia.edu</span></span></a>
<span lang="EN-GB">are problems in Germany as they go
beyond private use to make NC content publicly
available” (</span><a
href="https://twitter.com/wisealic/status/874284792275140609"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><span
lang="EN-GB">https://twitter.com/wisealic/<wbr>status/874284792275140609</span></a><span
lang="EN-GB"> and <a
href="https://twitter.com/wisealic/status/874284916644696066"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://twitter.com/wisealic/<wbr>status/874284916644696066</a>
)</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">My
interpretation of the CC licence is that sharing of
CC BY-NC-ND article by commercial platforms is OK as
long as they don’t sell the articles (which they
don’t do). </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">But apart from
that - what authors are doing is IMHO definitely not
prohibited because they have no commercial gain
whatsoever.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">What do you
think?</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">Kind regards</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span>Bernhard</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span>##############################<wbr>#############</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span>Dr. Bernhard Mittermaier</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span>Forschungszentrum Jülich GmbH</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">Leiter der
Zentralbibliothek / Head of the Central Library</span></p>
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