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    <p><font color="#000000">Sorry - sending this again - since I forgot
        to add the list email to it.<br>
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    <p>Re: <font color="#000000"><font color="#000000">Creative
          Commons-Attribution-Noncommercial-No Derivatives (CC-BY-NC-ND)</font></font></p>
    <p><font color="#000000">The fact that it says "No Derivatives" </font><font
        color="#000000">seems a concern for example sometimes
        researchers can publish a summary of other peoples articles and
        then include all the articles used in the references. But if it
        says "No Derivatives" does this mean the articles written by
        other people cannot be used to contribute towards your research,
        in which case, what is the point in reading them? Also part of
        the point of reading an article is to gain ideas from other
        people which can then be used to create new things by the
        researcher, but, this is potentially a "derivative" work since
        it can build on the work of others. So I think there is a
        problem there too.<br>
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    Jevan.<br>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On Sun 18-Jun-17 10:29 PM, Richard
      Poynder wrote:<br>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><font color="#000000">On a related topic,
              this poster might be of interest to list
              members:<span></span></font></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><b><font color="#000000">Exploiting
                Elsevier’s
                Creative Commons License Requirement to Subvert Embargo<span></span></font></b></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><b><font color="#000000"><br>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><font color="#000000">"In the last round
              of
              author sharing policy revisions, Elsevier created a
              labyrinthine title-by-title
              embargo structure requiring embargoes from 12-48 months
              for author sharing via
              institutional repository (IR), while permitting immediate
              sharing via author's
              personal website or blog. At the same time, all
              pre-publication versions are to
              bear a Creative Commons-Attribution-Noncommercial-No
              Derivatives (CC-BY-NC-ND)
              license. </font></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><font color="#000000"><br>
            </font></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><font color="#000000">"At the time this
              policy was announced, it was rightly criticized by
              many in the scholarly communication community as overly
              complicated and
              unnecessary. However, this CC licensing requirement
              creates an avenue for
              subverting the embargo in the IR to achieve quicker open
              distribution of the
              author's accepted manuscript. </font></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><font color="#000000"><br>
            </font></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><font color="#000000">"In short, authors
              may post an appropriately
              licensed copy on their personal site, at which point we
              may deposit without embargo
              in the IR, not through the license granted in the
              publication agreement, but
              through the CC license on the author's version, which the
              sharing policy
              mandates. This poster will outline this issue, our
              experimentation with
              application, and engage viewers in questions regarding its
              potential risks,
              benefits, and workflows."<span></span></font></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><font color="#000000"> <span></span></font></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><a
              href="https://kuscholarworks.ku.edu/handle/1808/24107"
              moz-do-not-send="true"><font color="#000000">https://kuscholarworks.ku.edu/handle/1808/24107</font></a><font
              style="color:rgb(0,0,255)" size="4"><span></span></font></p>
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        <div class="gmail_quote">On 18 June 2017 at 12:24, Mittermaier,
          Bernhard <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a
              href="mailto:b.mittermaier@fz-juelich.de" target="_blank"
              moz-do-not-send="true">b.mittermaier@fz-juelich.de</a>&gt;</span>
          wrote:<br>
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            .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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                <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">Dear colleagues,</span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"> </span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">on sharing in
                    file-sharing networks, Creatice Commons explain: </span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"> </span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">“Can I share
                    CC-licensed material on file-sharing networks?</span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">Yes. All CC
                    licenses allow redistribution of the unmodified
                    material by any means, including distribution via
                    file-sharing networks. Note that file-trading is
                    expressly considered to be noncommercial for
                    purposes of compliance with the NC licenses. Barter
                    of NC-licensed material for other items of value is
                    not permitted.”</span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"><a
href="https://creativecommons.org/faq/#can-i-share-cc-licensed-material-on-file-sharing-networks"
                      target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://creativecommons.org/<wbr>faq/#can-i-share-cc-licensed-<wbr>material-on-file-sharing-<wbr>networks</a>
                  </span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"> </span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">The “Elsevier
                    Sharing Rules” say</span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">“CC-BY-NC-ND
                    licensed articles may be shared on non-commercial
                    platforms only.”</span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"><a
href="http://help.sciencedirect.com/flare/sdhelp_Left.htm#CSHID=password.htm%7CStartTopic=Content%2Fsharing_pubs.htm%7CSkinName=svs_SD"
                      target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">http://help.sciencedirect.com/<wbr>flare/sdhelp_Left.htm#CSHID=<wbr>password.htm|StartTopic=<wbr>Content%2Fsharing_pubs.htm|<wbr>SkinName=svs_SD</a></span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"> </span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">and again in the
                    table at the bottom of that webpage: “Public posting
                    on commercial platforms (e.g., <a
                      href="http://www.researchgate.net" target="_blank"
                      moz-do-not-send="true">www.researchgate.net</a>, <a
                      href="http://www.academia.edu" target="_blank"
                      moz-do-not-send="true">www.academia.edu</a>)” :not
                    allowed</span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"> </span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">I’ve been asking
                    Alicia Wise, on what grounds why Elsevier takes that
                    position. She replied: </span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">„Both
                    ResearchGate &amp; <a href="http://academia.edu"
                      target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">academia.edu</a>
                    use content commercially to sell advertising &amp;
                    services around the content they disseminate” and
                    “Both ResearchGate &amp; </span><a
                    href="https://t.co/IQgdiiCF1s"
                    title="http://Academia.edu" target="_blank"
                    moz-do-not-send="true"><span
                      class="m_4621708708008501627invisible"><span
                        style="color:blue" lang="EN-GB">academia.edu</span></span></a>
                  <span lang="EN-GB">are problems in Germany as they go
                    beyond private use to make NC content publicly
                    available” (</span><a
                    href="https://twitter.com/wisealic/status/874284792275140609"
                    target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><span
                      lang="EN-GB">https://twitter.com/wisealic/<wbr>status/874284792275140609</span></a><span
                    lang="EN-GB"> and <a
                      href="https://twitter.com/wisealic/status/874284916644696066"
                      target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://twitter.com/wisealic/<wbr>status/874284916644696066</a>
                    )</span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"> </span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">My
                    interpretation of the CC licence is that sharing of
                    CC BY-NC-ND article by commercial platforms is OK as
                    long as they don’t sell the articles (which they
                    don’t do). </span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">But apart from
                    that - what authors are doing is IMHO definitely not
                    prohibited because they have no commercial gain
                    whatsoever.</span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"> </span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">What do you
                    think?</span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"> </span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">Kind regards</span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span>Bernhard</span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span>##############################<wbr>#############</span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span> </span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span>Dr. Bernhard Mittermaier</span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span>Forschungszentrum Jülich GmbH</span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">Leiter der
                    Zentralbibliothek / Head of the Central Library</span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span>52425 Jülich</span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span>Tel  <a
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                <p class="MsoNormal"><span> </span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span>Sitz
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