<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div><div>The time to concel subscriptions is AFTER Green OA has become universal,</div><div>not BEFORE, because pre-emptive cancellation just slows the progress of Green OA. </div><div>While Green OA is just partial, cancellation means loss of access. </div><div>And publishers try harder to embargo Green. </div><div><br class=""></div><div>Harnad, Stevan (2015) Open Access: What, Where, When, How and Why. </div><div>In: Ethics, Science, Technology, and Engineering: An International Resource </div><div>eds. J. Britt Holbrook & Carl Mitcham, </div><div>(2nd edition of Encyclopedia of Science, Technology, and Ethics, Farmington Hills MI: MacMillan Reference) </div><div><a href="http://eprints.soton.ac.uk/361704/" class="">http://eprints.soton.ac.uk/361704/</a></div><div><br class=""></div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Feb 27, 2017, at 8:19 AM, Richard Poynder <<a href="mailto:richard.poynder@gmail.com" class="">richard.poynder@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div class=""><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote"><div class="">---------- Forwarded message ---------<br class="">From: Rick Anderson <<a href="mailto:rick.anderson@utah.edu" class="">rick.anderson@utah.edu</a>><br class="">Date: Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 1:07 PM<br class="">Subject: Re: [SCHOLCOMM] BLOG: 'Be nice to each other' - the second Researcher 2 Reader conference<br class="">To: SCHOLCOMM <<a href="mailto:scholcomm@lists.ala.org" class="">scholcomm@lists.ala.org</a>><br class=""></div><br class=""><br class="">I do hope that those who are interested in the issue of Green OA and library cancellations will take the trouble</div></div></div></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div class="gmail_quote">to read the actual text of my comments on that topic from the R2R conference, and not rely either on Danny’s</div></div></div></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div class="gmail_quote">gloss below (“The Green OA=subscription cancellations is only viable in a utopian, almost fully green world”)</div></div></div></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div class="gmail_quote">or the version in her blog post (“The black and white version of Anderson’s future is: ‘If green OA works then</div></div></div></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div class="gmail_quote">subscriptions fail, and the reverse is true’”), neither of which accurately summarizes the argument I was making</div></div></div></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div class="gmail_quote">– though the latter version comes a bit closer than the former.<br class="gmail_msg">
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For those interested, the text of my R2R presentation can be found here:<br class="gmail_msg">
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From: <<a href="mailto:scholcomm-request@lists.ala.org" class="gmail_msg" target="_blank">scholcomm-request@lists.ala.org</a>> on behalf of Danny Kingsley <<a href="mailto:dak45@cam.ac.uk" class="gmail_msg" target="_blank">dak45@cam.ac.uk</a>><br class="gmail_msg">
Organization: University of Cambridge<br class="gmail_msg">
Reply-To: Danny Kingsley <<a href="mailto:dak45@cam.ac.uk" class="gmail_msg" target="_blank">dak45@cam.ac.uk</a>><br class="gmail_msg">
Date: Monday, February 27, 2017 at 2:20 AM<br class="gmail_msg">
To: SCHOLCOMM <<a href="mailto:scholcomm@lists.ala.org" class="gmail_msg" target="_blank">scholcomm@lists.ala.org</a>><br class="gmail_msg">
Subject: [SCHOLCOMM] BLOG: 'Be nice to each other' - the second Researcher 2 Reader conference<br class="gmail_msg">
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<Apologies for cross posting><br class="gmail_msg">
This time last week about 140 publishers, librarians, intermediaries, researchers and others were about to</div></div></div></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div class="gmail_quote">start the second annual Researcher 2 Reader conference. This is my take on the event:<br class="gmail_msg">
'Be nice to each other' - the second Researcher 2 Reader conference - <a href="https://unlockingresearch.blog.lib.cam.ac.uk/?p=1316" rel="noreferrer" class="gmail_msg" target="_blank">https://unlockingresearch.blog.lib.cam.ac.uk/?p=1316</a><br class="gmail_msg">
A taster:<br class="gmail_msg">
Aaaaaaaaaaargh! was Mark Carden's summary of the second annual Researcher 2 Reader conference, along</div></div></div></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div class="gmail_quote"> with a plea that the different players show respect to one another. My take home messages were slightly different:<br class="gmail_msg">
• Publishers should embrace values of researchers & librarians and become more open, collaborative, experimental and disinterested. <br class="gmail_msg">
• Academic leaders and institutions should do their bit in combating the metrics focus.<br class="gmail_msg">
• Big Deals don't save libraries money, what helps them is the ability to cancel journals. <br class="gmail_msg">
• The green OA = subscription cancellations is only viable in a utopian, almost fully green world.<br class="gmail_msg">
• There are serious issues in the supply chain of getting books to readers.<br class="gmail_msg">
• And copyright arrangements in academia do not help scholarship or protect authors. <br class="gmail_msg">
The programme for the conference included a mix of presentations, debates and workshops. The Twitter hashtag is #r2rconf.<br class="gmail_msg">
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Enjoy!<br class="gmail_msg">
Danny<br class="gmail_msg">
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