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Let us not forget that Beall was as well versed in supplying FUD as anybody else. Remember that he wrote that open access (in all it’s forms) was a plot by European socialists and an existential threat to the scholarly process.
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<div class="">Let’s also not forget that for every false-positive Beall casually and unfairly stigmatised the authors who published in the journals he listed and the publishers who published them. And when I say ‘causally’ I really mean it - Walt Crawford
has shown that for almost 90% of journals included in the list Beall gave absolutely no reasons for why they were included (<a href="http://walt.lishost.org/2016/01/trust-me-the-other-problem-with-87-of-bealls-lists/" class="">http://walt.lishost.org/2016/01/trust-me-the-other-problem-with-87-of-bealls-lists/</a>)</div>
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<div class="">Beall made himself judge, jury and executioner - with no requirement to justify his decisions and no obvious route for appeal. And he puffed the issue of ‘predatory’ journals to a level far beyond its actual impact and importance. Of course,
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<span lang="EN-CA" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Although I don’t applaud to the sudden disappearance of Beall’s list, I certainly think his legacy is highly controversial. In short, relying on a one-person black list to
make overall quality judgments (on publishers or journals) as well as specific decisions (on where to publish) was not appropriate. There are other ways, and other tools (DOAJ, to name one) better suited to these tasks. An eventual new “reliable service” (a
“black” complement to Cabells’ white list?) could be part of them; we’ll see.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
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<span lang="EN-CA" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">To Stevan: I wish to reassure you that I don’t see myself as “</span><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">predatorily inclined”
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that I’m not aware, much less part of any “FUD campaign to take [Beall] down” ;-)</span><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
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<b class="">Objet :</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [GOAL] Beall's list is removed<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
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No, this is not the whole -- nor the end — of the story.<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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My prediction is that the take-down of Beall’s list was indeed a result of FUD threats and actions (to Beall and his institution) by the deep pockets profiting from predation on authors’ publish-or-perish pressures. <o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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My hope is that a reliable service like it will indeed re-appear, with the collaboration of Jeffrey Beall (who has been something of a loose cannon, but on balance provided a valuable service).<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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My suspicion is that those trying to make hay out of this take-down are themselves predatorily inclined and perhaps even part of the FUD campaign to take him and his institution down.<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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Where there’s big bucks to be made, as in predatory “journal” publishing,” principles and scruples wither (with peer review the first to go)...<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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On Jan 18, 2017, at 10:24 AM, Jihane Salhab <<a href="mailto:jderg011@uottawa.ca" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">jderg011@uottawa.ca</a>> wrote:<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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<span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">FYI Beall’s list is removed. Check the following post:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><a href="http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2017/01/mystery-controversial-list-predatory-publishers-disappears" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class=""><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Mystery
as controversial list of predatory publishers disappears</span></a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>.<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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<span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">A better option for authors to verify good publishers is<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><a href="http://thinkchecksubmit.org/" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class=""><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">thinkchecksubmit.org</span></a><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">.
In my opinion, it does a better job than Beall's controversial list, because it relies on authors’ own judgements.</span><o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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“Think. Check. Submit. is a cross-industry initiative led by representatives from ALPSP, DOAJ, INASP, ISSN, LIBER, OASPA, STM, UKSG, and individual publishers.”</span><o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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