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    Hi Heather,<br>
    <br>
    I agree and this was one of things that was discussed at length -
    about the risk of putting up a fence and saying 'you're on the other
    side'. The point is trying to establish what it is we are saying
    when we mean that a researcher is working openly. And to find things
    that we can recognise and praise people for doing that works towards
    this utopia - because this is a utopia and one that in all
    likelihood won't be ever completely realised.<br>
    <br>
    This is a community discussion, no-one 'owns' the Scholalry Commons 
    (putting aside the fact that they are a concept so couldn't be owned
    anyway). The idea is that we - the community interested in this kind
    of thing - work together to try and come to some agreement. <br>
    <br>
    We had a very wide range of people at the workshop. Some people are
    from countries where the whole idea of open access is still very
    new. For them, having something that they can point to as a list or
    set of Principles that the community generally agree with is very
    helpful as a starting point. Even in a (very) well established
    university, I am having some difficulty discussing the idea of 'Open
    Research' with the research community because it is a nebulous
    concept.<br>
    <br>
    We welcome discussion - anyone who is interested can join FORCE11 -
    the 'join us' button is on the top of the webpage
    <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.force11.org/">https://www.force11.org/</a><br>
    <br>
    Regards,<br>
    <br>
    Danny<br>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 22/09/2016 15:23, Heather Morrison
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      <div>hi Danny,</div>
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      <div>The idea of  "<span style="background-color: rgb(255, 255,
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          attempt to define what the community considers the attributes
          and behaviours of a person who is fully participating in
          research" can be interpreted as </span><font face="PT Sans,
          Helvetica, sans-serif" color="#141412"><span style="font-size:
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            negative branding or deprecation of anyone the community
            considers less than pure according to community standards,
            as does this discussion point" "</span></font><span
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          agreement as to inclusion implies a concomitant agreement to
          exclude".</span><font face="PT Sans, Helvetica, sans-serif"
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      <div><font face="PT Sans, Helvetica, sans-serif" color="#141412"><span
            style="font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">Is it one of the
            purposes of the group to attack or deprecate a "person"
            whose "attributes and behaviours" are not what this group
            considers to be "fully participating in research"? Perhaps I
            am misunderstanding - please advise.</span></font></div>
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                  <div>-- <br>
                    Dr. Heather Morrison<br>
                    Assistant Professor<br>
                    École des sciences de l'information / School of
                    Information Studies<br>
                    University of Ottawa</div>
                  <div>Desmarais 111-02</div>
                  <div>613-562-5800 ext. 7634</div>
                  <div>Sustaining the Knowledge Commons: Open Access
                    Scholarship</div>
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        <div>On 2016-09-22, at 9:19 AM, Danny Kingsley &lt;<a
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          <div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF">&lt;Apologies for cross
            posting&gt;<br>
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            I have just returned from a two day workshop looking at the
            'Scholarly Commons'. Never heard of it? You might want to
            read on...<br>
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            "Taking a Principled stance - the Scholarly Commons" <a
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              href="https://unlockingresearch.blog.lib.cam.ac.uk/?p=919">
              https://unlockingresearch.blog.lib.cam.ac.uk/?p=919</a> is
            a blog about the FORCE11 event, now published in
            <i>Unlocking Research</i>.<br>
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            Taster:<br>
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              255);">It only rains about 10 days a year in San Diego.
              And Tuesday was one of them. In a rooftop room on campus
              in San Diego at UCSD, a group had gathered for the<span
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              255, 255);">FORCE11 Scholarly Commons workshop</a><span
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              255);">. The workshop brought together members of the </span><a
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              255, 255);">Scholarly Commons working group</a><span
              style="color: rgb(20, 20, 18); font-family: &quot;PT
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              -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; display: inline
              !important; float: none; background-color: rgb(255, 255,
              255);">, who hail from around the world and come from the
              broad scholarly commons. The Scholarly Commons is an idea
              to help define the future of research communication.<span
                class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><strong
              style="box-sizing: border-box; font-weight: bold; color:
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              background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">The goal is to
              promote the best research and scholarship possible through
              rapid </strong><b style="box-sizing: border-box;
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              -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255,
              255, 255);">and wide dissemination to all who need or want
              it.</b><br>
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              !important; float: none; background-color: rgb(255, 255,
              255);">We were meeting to discuss the draft of 18<span
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              255, 255);">Principles of the Commons</a><span
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              -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; display: inline
              !important; float: none; background-color: rgb(255, 255,
              255);"> – an attempt to define what the community
              considers the attributes and behaviours of a person who is
              fully participating in research.<span
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              background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">The Principles are
              broadly separated into four major themes of being Open,
              Equitable, Sustainable and Research &amp; Culture Driven</strong><span
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              Read it and join in if you are interested...<br>
              <br>
              Danny<br>
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Dr Danny Kingsley
Head, Office of Scholarly Communication
Cambridge University Library
West Road, Cambridge CB39DR
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