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Isn’t there a distinction between the use of PURE as a CRIS system and PURE as a repository. I get the feeling the former is much more common than the latter and only the latter will appear in OpenDOAR.
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<div class="">Elsevier's own list boasts over 200 PURE implementations at different institutions including 28 in the UK: <a href="https://www.elsevier.com/solutions/pure/who-uses-pure/clients" class="">https://www.elsevier.com/solutions/pure/who-uses-pure/clients</a></div>
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<div class="">OpenDOAR is a registry run by people with close links to EPrints & DSpace. It's no surprise then that EPrints and DSpace are well registered within OpenDOAR.</div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d" class="">Out of curiosity I had to check the amount of Pure instances as you mentioned that many institutional repositories run on Pure.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d" class="">Checking openDOAR’s registry of repositories (<a href="http://www.opendoar.org/" target="_blank" class="">http://www.opendoar.org/</a>)
I find 16 PURE-repositories listed, whereas e.g. Eprints has +400 instances and DSpace has +1300 instances. However I am not at all sure to what degree openDOAR is containing exhaustive data (or rather I am quite sure it doesn’t) -it is either lacking data
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<b class="">Subject:</b> Re: [GOAL] Re : Re: SSRN Sellout to Elsevier<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" class="">They bought Atira back in 2012 which created PURE which is the software that many of world's institutional repositories run on.<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p>
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SSRN announced today that it has changed ownership. SSRN is<br class="">
joining </span><a href="https://www.mendeley.com/?signout" target="_blank" class=""><span lang="EN-US" class="">Mendeley</span></a><span lang="EN-US" class=""> and
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to coordinate our development and delivery of new products and<br class="">
services, and we look forward to our new access to data, products,<br class="">
and additional resources that this change facilitates. (See Gregg<br class="">
Gordon’s </span><a href="https://www.elsevier.com/connect/ssrn-the-leading-social-science-and-humanities-repository-and-online-community-joins-elsevier" target="_blank" class=""><span lang="EN-US" class="">Elsevier<br class="">
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Like SSRN, Mendeley and Elsevier are focused on creating tools<br class="">
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at the forefront of on-line sharing of working papers. We are<br class="">
committed to continue our innovation and this change will enable<br class="">
that to happen more quickly. SSRN will benefit from access to the<br class="">
vast new data and resources available, including Mendeley’s<br class="">
reference management and personal library management tools, their<br class="">
new researcher profile capabilities, and social networking<br class="">
features. Importantly, we will also have new access for SSRN<br class="">
members to authoritative performance measurement tools such as<br class="">
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(a global media tracking tool). In addition, SSRN, Mendeley and<br class="">
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We realize that this change may create some concerns about the<br class="">
intentions of a legacy publisher acquiring an open-access working<br class="">
paper repository. I shared this concern. But after much discussion<br class="">
about this matter and others in determining if Mendeley and<br class="">
Elsevier would be a good home for SSRN, I am convinced that they<br class="">
would be good stewards of our mission. And our copyright policies<br class="">
are not in conflict -- our policy has always been to host only<br class="">
papers that do not infringe on copyrights. I expect we will have<br class="">
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Until recently I was convinced that the SSRN community was best<br class="">
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the evolving landscape, I came to believe that SSRN would benefit<br class="">
from being more interconnected and with the resources available<br class="">
from a larger organization. For example, there is scale in systems<br class="">
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On a personal note, it has been an honor to be involved over the<br class="">
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the incredible community of authors, researchers and institutions<br class="">
that has made this all possible. I consider it one of my great<br class="">
accomplishments in life. The community would not have been<br class="">
successful without the commitment of so many of you who have<br class="">
contributed in so many ways. I am proud of the community we have<br class="">
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