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Jessica is right, the number of PURE instances as PUBLIC
repositories are still low, but probably the number of them as
CLOSED CRIS managers is probably higher (although still not very
large). The problem is there is a tendency to use CRIS (managed by
burocrats) instead of OA IRs (managed by librarians) as commercial
people is selling systems like PURE also as good repository
managers. In my personal view PURE design is greenOA killer as
deposit it is not its primary aim (not required).<br>
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Why authors are supporting the move to PURE? Probably the same
reason they are depositing far more in ResearchGate or Academia
than in the GreenOA IRs: Ugly interfaces, no profiles, useless
metrics, ...<br>
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Your turn,<br>
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On 18/05/2016 15:01, Jean-Claude Guédon wrote:<br>
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Thank you for checking this.<br>
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However, numbers do not tell the whole story. Elsevier,
Thomson-Reuters, Springer, etc... behave strategically. Like good
military leaders, they constantly try and test to see what sticks
and works. For the moment, Pure's presence is small, but the
parent company learns through this limited presence, and it
obviously studies ways to make it more appealing to the repository
community.<br>
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This reminds me of ScholarOne as deployed by Thomson-Reuters.
Scielo-Brazil had trouble marking its articles in a suitable XML
format, and did it largely by hand. When Scielo did all it could
to be included in the Web of Science, they were also "offered" the
use of Scholar One. Now their work flow is dependent upon this
software tool to such an extent that moving out of Scholar One
will be very costly.<br>
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This reminds me also of the recent report by the NSF which, for
the first time, relies on Scopus rather than the Web of Science.
Elsevier is getting closer to the the old dream first entertained
by Robert Maxwell when he tried to coax the Science Citation Index
out of Eugene Garfield's hands, so as to be both judge and party
in the evaluation of journals. Reading how they gloat about this
is also instructive: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
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We, in the OA community, have been rather naive about the ways in
which power works and how it it is wielded. We had better wise up,
and fast.<br>
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But thank you again, Jessica, for doing the checking.<br>
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Hi Ross (et al.),
Out of curiosity I had to check the amount of Pure instances as you mentioned that many institutional repositories run on Pure.
Checking openDOAR’s registry of repositories (<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.opendoar.org/">http://www.opendoar.org/</a>) I find 16 PURE-repositories listed, whereas e.g. Eprints has +400 instances and DSpace has +1300 instances. However I am not at all sure to what degree openDOAR is containing exhaustive data (or rather I am quite sure it doesn’t) -it is either lacking data about PURE instances – or if not, I do not agree that they are many..
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Elsevier have actually done a really good job of infiltrating institutional repositories too:
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They bought Atira back in 2012 which created PURE which is the software that many of world's institutional repositories run on.
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Uh - "the distributed network of Green institutional repositories worldwide is not for sale"? Not so sure - the green institutional repositories can be replaced by other solutions, can't they ? Better solutions, more functionalities, more added value, more efficient, better connected to databases and gold/hybrid journals etc.
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