<div dir="ltr"><div><div><div>Following up,<br></div>I have checked the reuse permissions on OUP's Nucleic Acids Research (see previous mail) and they are charging large prices for re-use of CC-BY articles (e.g. 400 USD for use in an academic course pack for 100 students.<br><br></div>I hope this is a "glitch" (though I am getting very very tired of publisher glitches in their favour). If it is deliberate then although it is possibly legal - they can argue that a consumer can ignore their reprint permission charges - it is morally and ethically unacceptable.<br><br></div>I continue to point out such unacceptable practices. They will continue until the community also regards them as unacceptable and takes decisive action against unacceptable publishers.<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Feb 8, 2016 at 5:39 PM, Paul Royster <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:proyster2@unl.edu" target="_blank">proyster2@unl.edu</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<p class="MsoNormal">Dear Dr Walker,<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I infer that you are talking about the stamp: “<span style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">Downloaded from <a href="http://jme.oxfordjournals.org/" target="_blank">http://jme.oxfordjournals.org/</a> by guest on February 8, 2016”
</span>or equivalent that OUP pastes on every PDF it sends out? In practice, that stamp can be removed by Adobe Acrobat, though it takes a bit of practice and a delicate touch. (I won’t speak to whether such removal is within the bounds of any specific license
agreement.) Those time stamps are an ugly imposition marring the pages of many content sources, including JSTOR, Hathi Trust, and others, and I deplore them. They remind me of dogs marking their territories.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Oxford’s website for the JME says <span style="color:#1f497d">
<</span> <span style="color:#1f497d"><a href="http://jme.oxfordjournals.org/for_authors/charges-licenses-and-self-archiving.html" target="_blank">http://jme.oxfordjournals.org/for_authors/charges-licenses-and-self-archiving.html</a>>
</span>that authors paying for Open Access under Oxford Open have a choice of CC-BY-NC (no commercial re-use) or CC-BY-NC-ND (no commercial, no derivatives) licenses. Under either of these, authors (who pay) have immediate license to post the Oxford (or ESA)
pdf versions in their institutional repositories (or any other non-commercial uses). (Whether CC-BY-NC counts as “real” OA is a matter for discussion with the purists—most people would say it is, some more extreme advocates would not. It’s not clear to me
whether it meets the strict BOAI standard or not; or even if that matters.)<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Authors who do not pay for Oxford Open still “may upload their
<u>accepted manuscript PDF</u> to an institutional and/or centrally organized repository, provided that public availability is delayed until
<strong><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">12 months after first online publication
</span></strong>in the journal.” < <a href="http://www.oxfordjournals.org/en/access-purchase/rights-and-permissions/self-archiving-policyb.html" target="_blank">
http://www.oxfordjournals.org/en/access-purchase/rights-and-permissions/self-archiving-policyb.html</a> > So authors may still take the “Green OA” route—though whether Green OA counts as “real” OA is another murky or muddled question for some.<span style="color:#1f497d"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d">Your article in </span><i><span style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"RealpageGDY4-Italic",sans-serif">Learned Publishing
</span></i><span style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"RealpageGDY4",sans-serif">(2002)</span><b><span style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"RealpageGDY4-Bold",sans-serif">15</span></b><span style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"RealpageGDY4",sans-serif">, 279–284</span><span style="color:#1f497d">
<</span> <span style="color:#1f497d"><a href="http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1087/095315102760319242/abstract" target="_blank">http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1087/095315102760319242/abstract</a> >
</span>[though ironically not OA] made a clear and bold appeal for immediate free web access. I wish we had all been sooner to demand this of publishers and societies.<span style="color:#1f497d"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">It is unfortunate the ESA has cast its lot with OUP. I hope its members will realize the impact and reconsider the arrangement. Meanwhile, we do a lot of entomology for our repository (including
<i>Insecta Mundi</i>), and I would be happy to help you get your JME papers online, if you wish to contact me off-list. Best regards.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d">Paul Royster<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d">Coordinator of Scholarly Communications<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d">University of Nebraska–Lincoln Libraries<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d"><a href="mailto:proyster@unl.edu" target="_blank"><span style="color:#0563c1">proyster@unl.edu</span></a><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d"><a href="http://digitalcommons.unl.edu/" target="_blank"><span style="color:#0563c1">http://digitalcommons.unl.edu</span></a>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> <a href="mailto:goal-bounces@eprints.org" target="_blank">goal-bounces@eprints.org</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:goal-bounces@eprints.org" target="_blank">goal-bounces@eprints.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Walker,Thomas J<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, February 8, 2016 7:04 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Global Open Access List (Successor of AmSci) <<a href="mailto:goal@eprints.org" target="_blank">goal@eprints.org</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [GOAL] Can time-stamped PDF's qualify as OA?<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d">In investigating the PDFs of articles in Journal of Medical Entomology [JME] published by Oxford University Press [OUP] I’ve found that OUP puts a time stamp on every PDF they provide to others. This makes it
impossible for authors, who have paid a fee or $2000 to $3500 for OA, to make a non-time stamped PDF openly accessible on the Web.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d">This is because even though OUP has granted copyrights to OA-fee paying authors, it requires the corresponding author of each article to sign (for himself and for any other authors of the article) OUP’s “License
to Publish.” This <a href="http://entnemdept.ifas.ufl.edu/walker/OUP_License_to_Publish.pdf" target="_blank">
License</a> states (in legal language) that OUP has the exclusive right to publish the article! That would mean that authors could not legally post their copyrighted PDFs on their homepages.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:#1f497d">In a draft of a paper about this practice, I’ve argued that OUP’s time-stamped PDFs should not qualify as OA:<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">All the meanings of OA that I am aware of would exclude PDF files that have been altered to prevent their being an unaltered copy of the printed pages of the version of record. None of the PDF files in OUP’s
archive are unaltered. I challenge anyone to find one PDF that is a true electronic version of the printed version of that article [which is the “version of record”]. Yet PDF files of journal articles are valued
<i>because</i> they are unaltered scans of the pages of the paper version of the article.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:#1f497d">But am I wrong and OUP’s PDFs meet current NIH standards for OA?<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:#1f497d">Tom</span><span style="color:#1f497d"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas;color:#1f497d">============================================<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas;color:#1f497d">Thomas J. Walker
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Department of Entomology & Nematology <br>
PO Box 110620 (or Natural Area Drive) <br>
University of Florida, Gainesville, FL 32611-0620<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas;color:#1f497d">E-mail:
<a href="mailto:tjw@ufl.edu" target="_blank">tjw@ufl.edu</a> FAX: <a href="tel:%28352%29392-0190" value="+13523920190" target="_blank">(352)392-0190</a><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas;color:#1f497d">Web:
<a href="http://entomology.ifas.ufl.edu/walker/" target="_blank">http://entomology.ifas.ufl.edu/walker/</a><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d">============================================<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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