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<p>I fully agree with Arthur Sale. We initiated a 'photocopy request' service over 40 years ago, and quickly found that researchers primarily wanted to 'take care' of the request and were, over the years, quite willing to accommodate a one to two delay in
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<div id="divRplyFwdMsg" dir="ltr"><font face="Calibri, sans-serif" color="#000000" style="font-size:11pt"><b>From:</b> goal-bounces@eprints.org <goal-bounces@eprints.org> on behalf of Arthur Sale <ahjs@ozemail.com.au><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, January 4, 2016 2:19 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'Global Open Access List (Successor of AmSci)'<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [GOAL] Re: Quo vadere?</font>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:#1F497D">I don’t have access to the raw data now apart from knowing that we fulfill 13,000+ requests a year, but the University of Tasmania has operated a free unlimited-quantity service
for 15 years, funded pay-per-view centrally (ie in replacement for subscriptions). It is very much used, and regarded as a keystone of library research support. It simply is not true that academics are devoted to instant access, and they are prepared to wait
a day or two to read the papers they think are relevant. Of course they use alert services, metadata, etc in making the judgment, but if they think a paper is worth reading in full (it may not be after they have read it but nobody cares) they have no hesitation
in using the university’s service. The economics do stack up, and I am proud to have introduced it in about 1998.</span></p>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:#1F497D">See
<a href="http://www.utas.edu.au/library/research/document-delivery" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" id="LPlnk408142">
http://www.utas.edu.au/library/research/document-delivery</a> and <a href="http://www.utas.edu.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0019/65611/Document-Delivery-Service-online-guide-v10.7.12.pdf" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;">
http://www.utas.edu.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0019/65611/Document-Delivery-Service-online-guide-v10.7.12.pdf</a>.
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Document Delivery You are here. UTAS Home ; Library ; Researchers ; Document Delivery; Over 13,000 requests are submitted via our Document Delivery service per year.</div>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:#1F497D">For context, the University is in the top ten Australian universities for research, and in student size modest (27,000 students, 18% of whom are from outside Australia).</span></p>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:#1F497D">If someone wants to mine the data, contact the University Librarian.</span></p>
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<b><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> goal-bounces@eprints.org [mailto:goal-bounces@eprints.org]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Stevan Harnad<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, 5 January 2016 02:24 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Global Open Access List (Successor of AmSci)<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [GOAL] Re: Quo vadere?</span></p>
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On Sun, Jan 3, 2016 at 6:15 PM, Christian Gutknecht <<a href="mailto:christian.gutknecht@bluewin.ch" target="_blank" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;">christian.gutknecht@bluewin.ch</a>> wrote:</p>
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<b><i><span style="color:#1F497D">[ahjs] </span></i></b><span style="color:#1F497D">…</span></p>
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But I really like the idea to let researchers feel that subscription is an outdated model. And an easy way to do that without upsetting them too much, is to cancel subscriptions and get rid of the Big Deals. With the free money the library then can create two
kind of funds: One is the Gold OA fund (incl. hybrid options but with a cap) and one is the fund for costs resulting getting access to documents that are not longer available via subscription (like costs for pay-per-view, document delivery, individual subscription
of a really important journal).. Because librarians constantly overestimate the importance of their subscriptions and especially the Big Deals where they buy/rent a lot of stuff that is never used by their community. I think most libraries would find out that
researchers would get along quite well with this option</p>
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Christian, I strongly suggest that you look into the actual costs of such a proposal (replacing subscriptions by pay-to-view costs, per paper). </p>
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We are in the online era, when scholars are accustomed to reaching content immediately with one click, and browsing it to see whether it's even worth reading. A scholar may look at dozens of papers a day this way. That's what they do with their institutional
licensed content. You are imagining (without any data at all) that the cost of doing this via pay-per-view, at the usual $30 or so per paper, would amount to less cost for an institution than its current licensing costs.</p>
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Please repeat this proposal once you have done the arithmetic and have the evidence. (It won't be enough to find out the license costs and the pay-per-view costs. You will also have to monitor the daily usage, per discipline, of a sufficient representative
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Until then, subscription cancellation is not an option for institutions today. (But with
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universal immediate-deposit</a> it will be.)</p>
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As Thomas mentioned it’s really easy these days to get to the papers by simply asking the author. Also Researchgate and
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academia.edu</a> close the gap where IRs fail to provide access. </p>
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The ease and immediacy of online access to which institutional authors are now accustomed is for
<i>licensed (+ OA) content</i>. Find the actual user data for <i>unlicensed, non-OA</i> content. And prepare to discover that copy-requests -- for which you have expressed pessimism when they are Button-based -- may turn out to be much less immediate or reliable
if they must be mediated by email address search and waiting to see whether the author responds then when they are requested. With immediate deposit and the Button, the request is just one click for the user and one for the author...</p>
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