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Nobody said he was inventing the problem. I just want to know the size of it.
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<div>So what’s your definition of ‘tiny’ Stevan? I would say if articles in ‘predatory’ journals make up less than 5% of total number of paper published, or of papers published in Gold OA, or even of papers published in paid Gold then it is tiny! (And I don’t
see why your preferred ratio is any more ‘correct’ than mine.)</div>
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<div>On 9 Sep 2015, at 13:23, Stevan Harnad <<a href="mailto:amsciforum@gmail.com">amsciforum@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div>
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<div style="word-wrap:break-word">To get an idea of the size of the problem of ‘predatory' publishers, does anybody know:
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<div>a) the proportion of papers published each year in ‘predatory’ publishers compared to the total number of papers published worldwide; or even</div>
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<div>b) the proportion of papers published each year in ‘predatory’ publishers compared to the total number of papers published as Gold OA worldwide.</div>
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<div>If I had to guess, I would say that both proportions are tiny. </div>
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<div>Richard may be over-estimating the size of the problem, but he is not inventing it, and I doubt it's tiny.</div>
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<div>And the right comparison is as a percentage of paid Gold, not Gold.</div>
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<div>On 9 Sep 2015, at 09:42, Richard Poynder <<a href="mailto:richard.poynder@cantab.net" target="_blank">richard.poynder@cantab.net</a>> wrote:</div>
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What many now refer to as predatory publishing first came to my attention 7 years ago, when I interviewed a publisher who — I had been told — was bombarding researchers with invitations to submit papers to, and sit on the editorial boards of, the hundreds of
new OA journals it was launching.<u></u><u></u></p>
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Since then I have undertaken a number of other such interviews, and with each interview the allegations have tended to become more worrying — e.g. that the publisher is levying article-processing charges but not actually sending papers out for review, that
it is publishing junk science, that it is claiming to be a member of a publishing organisation when in reality it is not a member, that it is deliberately choosing journal titles that are the same, or very similar, to those of prestigious journals (or even
directly cloning titles) in order to fool researchers into submitting papers to it etc. etc.<u></u><u></u></p>
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The number of predatory publishers continues to grow year by year, and yet far too little is still being done to address the issue.
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Discussion of the problem invariably focuses on the publishers. But in order to practise their trade predatory publishers depend on the co-operation of researchers, not least because they have to persuade a sufficient number to sit on their editorial boards
in order to have any credibility. Without an editorial board a journal will struggle to attract many submissions.<u></u><u></u></p>
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Is it time to approach the problem from a different direction? <u></u><u></u></p>
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More here: <a href="http://poynder.blogspot.co.uk/2015/09/predatory-publishing-modest-proposal.html" target="_blank">
http://poynder.blogspot.co.uk/2015/09/predatory-publishing-modest-proposal.html</a><u></u><u></u></p>
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