<div dir="ltr"><div><div class="gmail_extra">On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 9:09 AM, Wilhelmina Randtke <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:randtke@gmail.com" target="_blank">randtke@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div><div>Nope, this presentation doesn't mean that content is the only thing that matters.<br><br></div>The presentation gives specific ways to ensure repository content is indexed in Google web search and in Google Scholar. Some of this is for developers, but lots of it is easy for a non technical person to do - like making a sitemap available. And, when something is easy to do in a popular repository platform, the presentation notes that - like hey there's a setting in Dspace to turn on a sitemap.<br><br></div><div>Being easy to find matters and this has good info on that. Has anyone out there not been asked by a faculty member whether stuff in the repository will show in Google Scholar?<br><br></div><div>-Wilhelmina Randtke<br></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div>Nope, I didn't say that (OA repository) content is the only thing that matters.<div><br></div><div>But if the repository does not have the content, then content is indeed the only thing that matters.</div><div><br></div><div>No matter how googleable your repository is, if it doesn't have the content, it won't be googled.</div><div><br></div><div>Nope, the reason authors don't deposit their content is not because they are afraid that it won't be googleable.</div><div><br></div><div>The reason is that (1) they don't understand OA, (2) they are afraid that it might be illegal to deposit, and (3) they are lazy: <a href="http://www.eprints.org/openaccess/self-faq/">http://www.eprints.org/openaccess/self-faq/</a></div><div><br></div><div>And yes, the only cure for this is effective OA mandates from the institutions and funders.</div><div><br></div><div>Nope, that's not what the Anurag presentation was about (I didn't say it was). Anurag's presentation was about how to make repository content more googleable.</div><div><br></div><div>I added the part that to make repository content googleable the content has to be in the repository -- and effective mandates are the way to make sure it is.<br></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div></div></div><div class="gmail_extra">On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 7:18 AM, Stevan Harnad <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:amsciforum@gmail.com" target="_blank">amsciforum@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Most repository queries and referrals come from google scholar and google users. So it is crucial to get repository contents well indexed by google.<div><br></div><div>Here are some tips from Google Scholar's Anurag Acharya:</div><div><a href="http://www.or2015.net/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/or-2015-anurag-google-scholar.pdf" target="_blank">http://www.or2015.net/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/or-2015-anurag-google-scholar.pdf</a><br></div><div><br></div><div>This is a good occasion to repeat also an important fact about Open Access Repositories:</div><div><br></div><div>OA Repositories' problem is not lack of searchability or of indexability or of search/index tools and services.</div><div><br></div><div>Their problem is <i>lack of OA content.</i></div><div><br></div><div>The cure is <i>effective OA mandates</i> -- not waiting for better search/index tools.</div><div><p style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Times">Vincent-Lamarre, Philippe, Boivin, Jade, Gargouri, Yassine, Larivière, Vincent and Harnad, Stevan (2015) <a href="http://eprints.soton.ac.uk/370203/" target="_blank">Estimating Open Access Mandate Effectiveness: I. The MELIBEA Score.</a> (JASIST, in press) <a href="http://eprints.soton.ac.uk/370203/" target="_blank">http://eprints.soton.ac.uk/370203/</a><br></p><p style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Times">Swan, Alma; Gargouri, Yassine; Hunt, Megan; & Harnad, Stevan (2015) <i>Open Access Policy: Numbers, Analysis, Effectiveness</i>. Pasteur4OA Workpackage 3 Report. <a href="http://eprints.soton.ac.uk/375854/" target="_blank">http://eprints.soton.ac.uk/375854/</a></p></div></div>
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