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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Hi all,<br>
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An interesting discussion. My perspective is not a moral one. The
APC charged should as far as possible reflect the quality and
services of the journal. The current full OA market (for APC
journals) is a relatively competive microeconomic market where
customers(=authors) decide where to submit in a situation where
they usually have several journals (some OA, most not ) to choose
from. Quite in contrast to the oligopolistic subscription market
or the strange hybrid OA market. So if BMC have in fact managed to
establish their better journals as high quality outlets there is
no problem in rising prices. The authors dedice. I don't think the
UK funders decisions have yet had much impact on the funding. <br>
<br>
I've personally paid APCs (or my department) for two articles in
PLoS and two in BMC journals nd I've found the benefit/cost ratio
to be excellent in all cases. In contrast I've made several grave
mistakes in the choice of where to submit to in subscription
journals. Those journals don't charge but there are high
opportunity costs in delayed publication, low visibility etc.<br>
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As to the question of rising costs due to higher rejection rates I
find this to be a largely unsubstantiated claim. The IT infra is
already paid for, copy editing and invoicing costs only depend on
the published papers. Almost all of the costs of desk rejected
manuscripts and manuscripts rejected after long review processes
are born by unpaid academic editors and reviewers, that is the
global scholarly community. <br>
<br>
Best regards<br>
<br>
Bo-Christer<br>
<br>
On 2/28/14 3:50 PM, Heather Morrison wrote:<br>
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<div>hi Jan,</div>
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<div>Good question! No, I have not looked into whether BMC's
rejection rates have increased.</div>
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<div>Whether this would be an acceptable reason for increasing
prices at all, or at a particular rate, is a different question.</div>
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<div>For example, unlike a print-based journal with size
constraints imposed by the need to bundle articles into mailable
issues, an online open access journal can easily increase in
scale with more submissions. PLOS ONE has demonstrated the
potential for translating rapid growth in submissions to rapid
journal growth, with no price increase, technological
innovations, and a more than healthy surplus.</div>
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<div>Best,</div>
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<div>Heather Morrison</div>
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On Feb 28, 2014, at 7:08 AM, "Frantsvåg Jan Erik" <<a
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">Have you
investigated if some of this increase could be explained
by an increased rejection rate? – this would be an
acceptable explanation, in my opinion.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">The suspicion is, of
course, that this could be one result of e.g. the RCUK
OA policy, which creates a less competitive market and
better conditions for generating super-profits.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">I think it was
Guédon who asked why currency fluctuations always led to
price increases …
</span><span lang="EN-GB">J</span><span lang="EN-GB"></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">Best,</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">Jan Erik</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">Jan Erik Frantsvåg</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">Open Access adviser</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">The University
Library of Tromsø</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">phone +47 77 64 49
50</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span>Fra:</span></b><span>
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<b>På vegne av</b> Heather Morrison<br>
<b>Sendt:</b> 28. februar 2014 00:54<br>
<b>Til:</b> Global Open Access List (Successor of
AmSci)<br>
<b>Emne:</b> [GOAL] The dramatic growth of
BioMedCentral's open access article processing
charges</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Thanks to the University of Ottawa's
open sharing of their author fund data, I've been able
to calculate that over the past few years there is
evidence that BMC is raising prices at rates far beyond
inflation (and far beyond what could be accounted for
through currency fluctuations). </p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Details are posted here:</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Note that this data reflects BMC
practices and cannot be generalized to open access
publishing as a whole. Public Library of Science, for
example, has achieved a 23% surplus in the same time
frame without increasing their OA article processing
charges at all.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">best,</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span>-- <br>
Dr. Heather Morrison<br>
Assistant Professor<br>
École des sciences de l'information / School
of Information Studies<br>
University of Ottawa</span></p>
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