<div dir="ltr"><br><div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Dec 23, 2013 at 3:31 PM, Stevan Harnad <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:amsciforum@gmail.com" target="_blank">amsciforum@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">On Sun, Dec 22, 2013 at 12:22 PM, Mitar <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:mitar@tnode.com" target="_blank">mitar@tnode.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr"><div><br><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><div>See: <a href="http://openaccess.eprints.org/index.php?/archives/1092-I-dont-want-free-online-access-I-want-free-online-access-with-re-use-rights%21.html" style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:12px" target="_blank"><b>I don't want free online access: I want free online access with re-use rights!</b></a></div>
</div></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br><br>I can't let this torrent of hypotheticals and suppositions stand<br><br></div><div>This includes completely misleading statements such as:<br><br>"I don't want free online access: I want free online access with re-use rights!"<blockquote>
<em>SH rebuttal : But re-use rights to only a fragment of the research in a field are near-useless...</em></blockquote>"near-useless" is SH's judgment. He has no evidence for this and it's simply catstrophically wrong.<br>
<br></div><div>I am starting right now to mine the bioscience literature. BOAI #openaccess is somewhere around 15-20 percent of currently published bioscience. That is enormously valuable as it stands. SH may describe my research as "near-useless" but I can extract high-quality publishable science, and I intend to publish it if it achieves a useful scientific gain. There are MANY cases where comprehensiveness is not required. <br>
<br></div><div>Here are some of the things I and colleagues intend to do - they are NOT "near-useless"<br><br></div><div>* compiling a vocabulary. This is of enormous value in nearly every field. 20% will contain all the commonly used vocabulary. The value of the long-tail is not critical in most fields<br>
<br></div><div>* building a natural language toolkit. I have done this and it is widely used . I do not need the whole literature to do this.<br><br>* creating a corpus for the community to use as a reference. This is extremely useful and has been plagued in the past by rights issues<br>
<br></div><div>* extracting information from diagrams and figures.<br><br></div><div>* building reference data. My group has built a system with half the world's published crystallographic data (200,000 structures) . For many purposes - docking drugs into enzymes, building nanomaterials , supporting Quantum mechanics calculations - it's essentially as valuable as the complete literature.<br>
<br></div><div>* reference data. Enormously valuable. <br></div><div><br></div><div>It is a great pity that Open Access has become embroiled in personal crusades rather than constructive discussion and accurate opinions.<br>
<br></div><div>My research on 15-20% of the literature is not "near-useless" and this will become clear in the next 1-2 months<br></div><div><br><br></div><div><br></div><div><br><br><br><br></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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