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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">You’re right: we need more information before drawing any conclusion.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">I found this in a 2009 paper in the Canadian Journal of Higher Education (in a special issue to which J. C. Guédon contributed, by the way):
<a href="http://ojs.library.ubc.ca/index.php/cjhe/article/view/479/504"><span style="color:windowtext">http://ojs.library.ubc.ca/index.php/cjhe/article/view/479/504</span></a>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">“...if the complete editorial flow, from the reception of manuscripts, the peer-review process, editing,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">and the online SciELO publication, is taken into account, the total cost for each new SciELO Brazilian collection article is estimated
to be between US$200 and $600.”<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">This seems to be a more meaningful figure, for this discussion, than the cost to authors. It’s still much lower than the average
APC of $1350 for commercial publishers (thus cost + profit), according to Solomon & Bjork 2012 paper in JASIST (postprint available:
<a href="http://www.openaccesspublishing.org/apc2/preprint.pdf"><span style="color:windowtext">http://www.openaccesspublishing.org/apc2/preprint.pdf</span></a>).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Marc Couture<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="FR" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">De :</span></b><span lang="FR" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> goal-bounces@eprints.org [mailto:goal-bounces@eprints.org]
<b>De la part de</b> Graham Triggs<br>
<b>Envoyé :</b> 17 décembre 2013 16:18<br>
<b>À :</b> Global Open Access List (Successor of AmSci)<br>
<b>Objet :</b> [GOAL] Re: Jeffrey Beall Needlessly Compromises Credibility of Beall's List<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 17 December 2013 16:32, Couture Marc <<a href="mailto:marc.couture@teluq.ca" target="_blank">marc.couture@teluq.ca</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#222222">This is a somewhat incomplete, if not flawed argument.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">1. The prices mentioned by Graham are just two examples (out of 280 current journals in SciELO Brazil).
One reads further in the same blog post : “In the case of SciELO Brazil, the average per article cost of publication is around US $130”.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Does that represent US $130 cost to the author, or US $130 cost for the journal? There are cases of subsidized journals on SciELO, in which case you then also have to look at where that funding is coming from, to consider the overall cost
to the public purse of publishing on SciELO.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Without knowing more detail (and we have to accept that and make allowances for incomplete information on both sides of the fence), it's not unreasonable to suggest that the higher priced APCs for SciELO journals are more indicative of
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