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<p style="margin-top:0px"><span style="">We are not against green open access: we are for finding ways to make green open access work over time and at scale. Our view is that no one, including us, wants to spend time and money finding copies of final published
journal articles online and asking for their removal. But as interest in scholarly sharing and green open access continues to grow, we do feel it is important — for researchers and for our business — to find ways forward that are both scalable and sustainable
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<p style="margin-top:0px"><span style="">If immediate open access to final articles is wanted, the gold open access publishing model works and Elsevier enables this by publishing more than 70 fully open access and 1,600+ hybrid open access journals. The immediate
availability of final articles published under the subscription model is not sustainable at scale. Elsevier supports authors who want to share their research, and we have simple guidelines to support sustainable approaches to green open access. For more information
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<div><a href="http://www.elsevier.com/connect/a-comment-on-takedown-notices" style=""><font color="#000000">http://www.elsevier.com/connect/a-comment-on-takedown-notices</font></a></div>
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With kind wishes,</div>
<div>Alicia<br>
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On 17 Dec 2013, at 21:21, "Peter Murray-Rust" <<a href="mailto:pm286@cam.ac.uk">pm286@cam.ac.uk</a>> wrote:<br>
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<div>In a blog post<br>
<a href="http://svpow.com/2013/12/17/elsevier-steps-up-its-war-on-access/">http://svpow.com/2013/12/17/elsevier-steps-up-its-war-on-access/</a>
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Mike Taylor reports that<br>
<p><a href="http://www.ucalgary.com/">The University of Calgary</a> has just sent this notice to all staff:</p>
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<p>The University of Calgary has been contacted by a company representing the publisher, Elsevier Reed, regarding certain Elsevier journal articles posted on our publicly accessible university web pages. We have been provided with examples of these articles
and reviewed the situation. Elsevier has put the University of Calgary on notice that these publicly posted Elsevier journal articles are an infringement of Elsevier Reed’s copyright and must be taken down.</p>
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We are now in the position - which many of us foresaw many years ago - that if Green Open Access started to hurt publishers they would arbitrarily close it down or otherwise make it difficult.
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Green OA is not a right, nor a contractual agreement and can be withdrawn at any time. The danger for the publisher is bad publicity but this seems to be a weak constraint.<br>
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Others may debate why Elsevier has done this - maybe the papers aren't on the right web pages, maybe the University has a mandate (which invalidates Green OA as far as Elsevier is concerned), maybe it's a foulup , maybe...<br>
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The simple truth is that this is the end of the road for many of us. We are not working with publishers, we are fighting them.<br>
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Open Access is about justice. <br>
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This is not.<br>
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Unilever Centre, Dep. Of Chemistry<br>
University of Cambridge<br>
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