<div dir="ltr"><div>In one sense, retraction is impossible. An article that has been published is out there. What we are in fact discussing is the withdrawal of an article's peer reviewed status. If the article is in a pre-print, pre-peer review repository, arguably nothing has changed.<br>
</div><div><div><br></div><div>As everyone is increasingly aware, peer review is an imperfect process that fails to detect many scientific impostures.<br><br>In formal research synthesis, one would expect systematic review/meta-analysis authors searching for studies to include also to be capable of finding any associated retraction notices.<br>
<br></div><div>One might also expect experts within a field to have a more sophisticated take on its literature than "well, it got through peer review, so it must be fine."<br><br></div><div>So finally, we are left with the effects of persistence of bad information upon whom we might term "vulnerable users" such as the general public, novice students, and non-speakers of the language in which the article is published. Surely the answer with this group is to skill them up with the tools of search and appraisal so that they too approach the literature with an appropriate pair of tongs, noses wrinkling at the reek, rather than worrying about shielding them directly from the fact that someone is wrong on the internet.<br>
<br></div><div>Sure, individual journals and repositories will want to compete on how nicely they can host the discussion that surrounds any scientific work. One extreme of that discussion is an editor who has presided over the review process saying "This is frankly fraudulent." But then, such articles then become interesting for students of scientific fraud, so they should never just vanish. <br>
<br></div><div>My 2 centimes,<br></div><div><br></div><div>Regards to all,<br><br></div><div>D<br></div></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 11 December 2013 00:35, Florence Piron <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:Florence.Piron@com.ulaval.ca" target="_blank">Florence.Piron@com.ulaval.ca</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Hi,<br>
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The forced retraction of the Séralini paper from an Elsevier journal (an attack in itself on the integrity of the scientific publication process and a clear sign that the Pre publication review process is really agonizing) makes me wonder what happens to a paper that has been retracted from a journal, but that had been deposited in a repository. Should it be also "retracted" from the repository? By whom? On whose authority? Did it happen already?<br>
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Florence Piron, Québec<br>
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<a href="http://www.i-sis.org.uk/Open_letter_to_FCT_and_Elsevier.php" target="_blank">http://www.i-sis.org.uk/Open_letter_to_FCT_and_Elsevier.php</a><br>
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