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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">Sally Morris wrote :<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:blue">I find it interesting that no one has commented at all on the two main points I was trying to make (perhaps not clearly enough):<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">&gt;</span><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:blue">1)&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; The focus of OA seems to be, to a considerable
 extent, the destruction of the publishing industry:&nbsp; note the hostile language of, for example, Peter M-R's 'occupying power'</span><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:blue">2)&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; It still seems curious to me (as to Beall) that scholars have to be forced, by mandates, to comply with a behaviour which is considered be self-evidently beneficial
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">I think these &nbsp;two points have been extensively discussed, but if it needs repeating (of stated in different words), here is my take.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">1) I know some OA advocates suggest that science could do without publishers and/or journals. But I don&#8217;t share your opinion that this is &#8220;to a
 considerable extent the focus of OA&#8221;. I rather think the opposite : to me it seems to be a marginal position. But, absent any serious study of the OA movement, these are just that: opinions.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">By the way, what is missing in Beall&#8217;s recent opinion piece can help define what one should do in such a study: define and categorize the actors
 (OA advocates???), analyze their discourse in forums, blog posts, etc. (text-mining?). That would certainly be interesting&#8230;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA" style="color:#1F497D">2) </span><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">Scholars (well, in the academe) are forced by explicit and implicit rules (mostly self-imposed
 in a collective way) to do many things they would often prefer not doing, or doing less, because they don&#8217;t like them or, more likely, because they don&#8217;t have enough time to do them all: teaching large classes, publishing scholarly papers, supervising students,
 peer-reviewing (papers, grant proposals), sitting on committees, writing administrative reports, etc. etc. So they all do the same: they decide what they won&#8217;t do according to what non-action entails the less dire or less immediate consequences. Thus I don&#8217;t
 find it curious, but rather easy to understand that even if they know self-archiving is good for them, and would like to do it, it&#8217;s simply one of the easiest things to defer when you look at your workload, unless of course there is a consequence. Thus the
 success of Liège (no publication considered for promotion or internal funding request if you don&#8217;t self-archive) and NIH mandates (continuation grant awards not processed).</span><span lang="EN-CA" style="color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">Marc Couture<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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