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<div>Same inkling as Jan & Laurent. The way fwd for OAP would be some form of accreditation by repository & publisher. One would need to show what review & quality assurance mechanism is used, e.g. Pre- Post- Open peer review and demonstrate annually to the
accreditation agency that this is what you are doing. The rest can be left to authors, readers and reviewers...</div>
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<div>Each further day of thinking makes me feel closer and closer to this view. As an author, I just like when colleagues are happy with one of my texts online. As a reviewer I am fed up with unreadable junk.
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<div>Le 10 déc. 2013 à 15:36, Jan Velterop <<a href="mailto:velterop@gmail.com">velterop@gmail.com</a>> a écrit :</div>
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<div>May I join you in the ranks of those who risk being pilloried or branded heretics? I think the solution is clear. We should get rid of pre-publication peer review (PPPR) and publish results in open repositories. PPPR is the one thing that keeps the whole
publishing system standing, and expensive – in monetary terms, but also in terms of effort expended. It may have some benefits, but we pay very dearly for those. Where are the non-peer-reviewed articles that have caused damage? They may have to public understanding,
of course (there's a lot of rubbish on the internet), but to scientific understanding? On the other hand, I can point to peer-reviewed articles that clearly have done damage, particularly to public understanding. Take the Wakefield MMR paper. Had it just been
published without peer-review, the damage would likely have been no greater than that of any other drivel on the internet. Its peer-reviewed status, however, gave it far more credibility than it deserved. There are more examples.</div>
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<div>My assertion: pre-publication peer review is dangerous since it is too easily used as an excuse to absolve scientists – and science journalists – from applying sufficient professional skepticism and critical appraisal.</div>
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<div>Doing away with PPPR will do little damage – if any at all – to science, but removes most barriers to open access and saves the scientific community a hell of a lot of money.</div>
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<div>The 'heavy lifting is that of cultural change' (crediting William Gunn for that phrase), so I won't hold my breath.</div>
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<div>On 10 Dec 2013, at 13:36, Sally Morris <<a href="mailto:sally@morris-assocs.demon.co.uk">sally@morris-assocs.demon.co.uk</a>> wrote:</div>
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<div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt"><span lang="EN-US">At the risk (nay, certainty) of being pilloried by OA conformists, let me say that – whatever ithe failings of his article – I thank Jeffrey Beall for raising some fundamental questions which are rarely, if
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<div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt"><span lang="EN-US">1)<span style=""> </span>
What is the objective of OA?</span></div>
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<div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt"><span lang="EN-US">I originally understood the objective to be to make scholarly research articles, in some form, accessible to all those who needed to read them.<span style="">
</span>Subsequent refinements such as 'immediately', 'published version' and 'free to reuse' may have acquired <span class="179345612-10122013">quasi</span>-religious status, but are surely secondary to this main objective.</span></div>
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<div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt"><span lang="EN-US">However, two other, financial, objectives (linked to each other, but not to the above) have gained increasing prominence.<span style="">
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</span>The second - more malicious, and originally (but no longer) denied by OA's main proponents - is the undermining of publishers' businesses.<span style="">
</span>If this were to work, we may be sure the effects would not be choosy about 'nice' or 'nasty' publishers.</span></div>
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Why hasn't OA been widely adopted by now?</span></div>
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<div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt"><span lang="EN-US">If – as we have been repetitively assured over many years – OA is self-evidently the right thing for scholars to do, why have so few of them done so voluntarily?<span style="">
</span>As Jeffrey Beall points out, it seems very curious that scholars have to be forced, by mandates, to adopt a model which is supposedly preferable to the existing one.</span></div>
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<div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt"><span lang="EN-US">Could it be that the monotonous rantings of the few and the tiresome debates about the fine detail are actually confusing scholars, and may even be putting them off?<span class="179345612-10122013"> </span></span><span lang="EN-US">Just
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<div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt"><span lang="EN-US">I don't disagree that the subscription model is not going to be able to address the problems we face in making the growing volume of research available to those who need it; but I'm not convinced that OA (whether
Green, Gold or any combination) will either. I think the solution, if there is one, still eludes us.</span></div>
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<span style="font-size:14pt; font-family:Consolas; color:rgb(68,84,106)">Hello, yes, I wrote the article, I stand by it, and I take responsibility for it.</span></div>
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<span style="font-size:14pt; font-family:Consolas; color:rgb(68,84,106)">I would ask Prof. Harnad to clarify one thing in his email below, namely this statement,<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span lang="EN-GB">"OA is all an anti-capitlist
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<span style="font-size:14pt; font-family:Consolas; color:rgb(68,84,106)">This statement's appearance in quotation marks makes it look like I wrote it in the article. The fact is that this statement does not appear in the article, and I have never written such
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<span style="font-size:14pt; font-family:Consolas; color:rgb(68,84,106)">Prof. Harnad and his lackeys are responding just as my article predicts.</span></div>
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<b><span style="font-size:11pt; font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11pt; font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:goal-bounces@eprints.org" style="text-decoration:underline; color:blue">goal-bounces@eprints.org</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>[<a href="mailto:goal-bounces@eprints.org">mailto:goal-bounces@eprints.org</a>]<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b>On
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<b>Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Monday, December 09, 2013 2:14 PM<br>
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<span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10pt; font-family:Verdana,sans-serif; color:rgb(31,73,125)">Has this article really been written by Jeffrey Beall?</span></div>
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<span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10pt; font-family:Verdana,sans-serif; color:rgb(31,73,125)">He has been victim of a smear campaign before!</span></div>
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<span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10pt; font-family:Verdana,sans-serif; color:rgb(31,73,125)">I don’t see he has claimed this article on his blog<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span lang="EN-GB"><a href="http://scholarlyoa.com/" style="text-decoration:underline; color:blue">http://scholarlyoa.com/</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10pt; font-family:Verdana,sans-serif; color:rgb(31,73,125)">or
his tweet stream @Jeffrey_Beall (which actually functions as his RSS feed).</span></div>
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<b><span style="font-size:10pt; font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10pt; font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:goal-bounces@eprints.org" style="text-decoration:underline; color:blue">goal-bounces@eprints.org</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>[<a href="mailto:goal-bounces@eprints.org" style="text-decoration:underline; color:blue">mailto:goal-bounces@eprints.org</a>]<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b>On
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<span lang="EN-GB">Beall, Jeffrey (2013)<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://triplec.at/index.php/tripleC/article/view/525/514" style="text-decoration:underline; color:blue">The Open-Access Movement is Not Really about Open Access</a>.
TripleC Communication, Capitalism & Critique Journal. 11(2): 589-597<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://triplec.at/index.php/tripleC/article/view/525/514" style="text-decoration:underline; color:blue">http://triplec.at/index.php/tripleC/article/view/525/514</a></span></div>
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<span lang="EN-GB">This wacky article is going to be fun to review. I still think Jeff Beall is doing something useful with his naming and shaming of junk OA journals, but I now realize that he is driven by some sort of fanciful conspiracy theory! "OA is all
an anti-capitlist plot." (Even on a quick skim it is evident that Jeff's article is rife with half-truths, errors and downright nonsense. Pity. It will diminish the credibility of his valid exposés, but maybe this is a good thing, if the judgment and motivation
behind Beall's list is as kooky as this article! But alas it will now also give the genuine "predatory" junk-journals some specious arguments for discrediting Jeff's work altogether. Of course it will also give the publishing lobby some good sound-bites, but
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<b><i><span lang="EN-GB">JB:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></i></b><i><span lang="EN-GB">"<b>ABSTRACT</b>: While the open-access (OA) movement purports to be about making scholarly content open-access, its true motives are much different.
The OA movement is an anti-corporatist movement that wants to deny the freedom of the press to companies it disagrees with. The movement is also actively imposing onerous mandates on researchers, mandates that restrict individual freedom. To boost the open-access
movement, its leaders sacrifice the academic futures of young scholars and those from developing countries, pressuring them to publish in lower-quality open-access journals. The open-access movement has fostered the creation of numerous predatory publishers
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<b><i><span lang="EN-GB">JB: </span></i></b><i><span lang="EN-GB">"[F]rom their high-salaried comfortable positions…OA advocates... demand that for-profit, scholarly journal publishers not be involved in scholarly publishing and devise ways (such as green open-access)
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<b><i><span lang="EN-GB">JB: </span></i></b><i><span lang="EN-GB">"OA advocates use specious arguments to lobby for mandates, focusing only on the supposed economic benefits of open access and ignoring the value additions provided by professional publishers.
The arguments imply that publishers are not really needed; all researchers need to do is upload their work, an action that constitutes publishing, and that this act results in a product that is somehow similar to the products that professional publishers produce….
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<b><i><span lang="EN-GB">JB: </span></i></b><i><span lang="EN-GB">"The open-access movement isn't really about open access. Instead, it is about collectivizing production and denying the freedom of the press from those who prefer the subscription model of
scholarly publishing. It is an anti-corporatist, oppressive and negative movement, one that uses young researchers and researchers from developing countries as pawns to artificially force the make-believe gold and green open-access models to work. The movement
relies on unnatural mandates that take free choice away from individual researchers, mandates set and enforced by an onerous cadre of Soros-funded European autocrats...</span></i><span lang="EN-GB"></span></div>
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publishers – a product of the open-access movement – has poisoned scholarly communication, fostering research misconduct and the publishing of pseudo-science, but OA advocates refuse to recognize the growing problem. By instituting a policy of exchanging funds
between researchers and publishers, the movement has fostered corruption on a grand scale. Instead of arguing for openaccess, we must determine and settle on the best model for the distribution of scholarly research, and it's clear that neither green nor gold
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<b><i><span lang="EN-GB">JB:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></i></b><i><span lang="EN-GB">"Open access advocates think they know better than everyone else and want to impose their policies on others. Thus, the open access movement has the
serious side-effect of taking away other's freedom from them. We observe this tendency in institutional mandates. Harnad (2013) goes so far as to propose [an]…Orwellian system of mandates… documented [in a] table of mandate strength, with the most restrictive
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<b><i><span lang="EN-GB">JB: </span></i></b><i><span lang="EN-GB">"A social movement that needs mandates to work is doomed to fail. A social movement that uses mandates is abusive and tantamount to academic slavery. Researchers need more freedom in their decisions
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