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<div>This is not about where authors may self archive their papers, but about the version they archive. Academia (and Researchgate, and personal sites) have thousands of published versions archived by the authors. That is against most publishers' policies.
Cambridge University Press is a good exception allowing archiving of the publishers' version after an embargo period..</div>
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<div>Elsevier has always been issuing takedown notices, but not at this scale and mostly not against their own authors. In that sense this is new and a sign that Elsevier wants to fight the very idea that outcomes of science should circulate freely. </div>
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<div>Strictly juridically speaking Elsevier is just asserting copyright of course. But I hope it will be another wake up call for authors with the effect that they start to massively share their last author versions through their institutional repositories
and other routes. And of course they can publish in reasonably priced full OA journals.</div>
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Op 7 dec. 2013 om 08:20 heeft "Richard Poynder" <<a href="mailto:ricky@richardpoynder.co.uk">ricky@richardpoynder.co.uk</a>> het volgende geschreven:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">List members can also refer to the following article in The Chronicle of Higher Education, which includes comments from the founder
and CEO of <a href="http://Academia.edu">Academia.edu</a> Richard Price, and from Elsevier:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><a href="http://chronicle.com/blogs/wiredcampus/posting-your-latest-article-you-might-have-to-take-it-down/48865">http://chronicle.com/blogs/wiredcampus/posting-your-latest-article-you-might-have-to-take-it-down/48865</a><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Elsevier has also posted a statement on the matter here:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><a href="http://www.elsevier.com/connect/a-comment-on-takedown-notices">http://www.elsevier.com/connect/a-comment-on-takedown-notices</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">
<a href="mailto:goal-bounces@eprints.org">goal-bounces@eprints.org</a> [mailto:goal-bounces@eprints.org]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Peter Murray-Rust<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 07 December 2013 05:04<br>
<b>To:</b> Global Open Access List (Successor of AmSci)<br>
<b>Cc:</b> jisc-repositories; ASIS&T Special Interest Group on Metrics<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [GOAL] Re: Elsevier Study Commissioned by UK BIS<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">List members may be aware that Elsevier sent out thousands of take-down notices for Green OA yesterday. See
<a href="http://svpow.com/2013/12/06/elsevier-is-taking-down-papers-from-academia-edu/">
http://svpow.com/2013/12/06/elsevier-is-taking-down-papers-from-academia-edu/</a> and much twitter discussion.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">These manuscripts are Green. They are self archived by authors after publication.
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">But this is forbidden by Elsevier - the manuscripts can only be posted in an Institutional Repository (and then, I assume, only if there is no mandate requiring deposition).<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">This is lunacy and it's to the discredit of the academics that they play this convoluted and sterile game created by the publishers. Publishers' reason for insisting on IRs over
<a href="http://Academia.edu">Academia.edu</a> is that readers actually use Academia.
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">The purpose of the BOAI declaration was to make scholarship available to everyone. This farce makes scholarship available to almost no-one.<o:p></o:p></p>
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